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[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I didn't ask about Russia, I asked about the majority of Ukrainian voters who had their democratically elected president removed from office.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Ukrainian_presidential_election

[–] jabjoe 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ukrainians can remove their leaders. Russia doesn't get to do that and they failed so far this time round. Though they have managed to seize yet more land.

Viktor Yanukovych may well have been elected fairly at the time. But he up set his people and then thought it was ok to authorize live ammo on his own people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

He may not have started as a Russian puppet, but he certainly looked like one at the end.

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ukrainians can remove their leaders

Ok we're on the same page then, we're both ok with the people of Donetsk/Luhansk rebelling against the Kyiv gov

[–] jabjoe 1 points 2 months ago

Those people just happened to include a load Russia soldiers who happened to on holiday there.

Viktor Yanukovych being kicked out was by actural Ukrainians.

I don't see them the same.

Anyway, I'm done here. I keep ending up in these long threads with tankies / trolls from lemmy.world, life is too short.