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China campits exist. There are fantastic sources of information about China who are not even remotely Marxist and just support China for whatever reason. I am wondering what percentage of China supporters do you think that applies to?

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[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

To put it into perspective, in Vietnam the communist party has about 5,300,000 people in it as of 2021, the womens union has 13 million members.

Its similar in China, people trust the government so instead tend to focus on advancing sector rights rather than party politics, think student/workers/womens unions.

[–] farmer_of_song@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

CPC has almost 100 million members. Are they China campists, Marxist-Leninists, or both?

I'd argue that of the international Communist movement, the majority of party members are Chinese.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And the All-China Federation of Trade Unions is larger, 300 million.

Are they China campists, Marxist-Leninists, or both?

Its always going to be a spectrum, there will be everything from liberals to ultras residing in it, ML with reference to historic Chinese socialism is clearly the dominant ideology however.

[–] farmer_of_song@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

CPI has 650k members, CPI(M) has 100k members.

CPC is the largest Communist Party in the world.

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago

Sorry you're right, edited my orginal comment not sure why I mixed that up.

[–] sovecon@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 week ago

When I was studying Standard Chinese I was talking to my tutor about the youth organization and he said it's basicall required to be a member to qualify for state assistance. Kind of like a formality like selective service is in the US. So for that org I would guess about 99% of the people are not ardent MLs.

You also bring up a good point that was really matters is if the public support the party and if the party is supporting the people.