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not to defend them, but capitalism is not doing very good recently, so that might give them points
Yes, I know. I'm not a fan of that myself.
But the idea that current day Russia has it better is insane. The Propaganda has survived through 30 years of non existence
There is a difference between Russia, communism and an authoritarian/totalitarian regime.
Communism is not necessarily authoritarian or totalitarian.
It always leads to absolute authoritarian hellholes. It never not has done that.
What's an existing current for. Of communism that hasn't gone Auth or totalit?
"Parents should never talk to their kids" ~ Marx
Sure, might take a while tho, I used that in my Bachelor work
Okay, what's one of them, though? Can you point to a country that currently has this going on? I'm not trying to do a gotcha here, I'm genuinely curious.
None but the clown company doesn't catch that or thinks China isn't a authoritarian hellhole.
The core problem with communism is humanity itself, it goes directly against the human nature. There is a 0% possibility of it working with humans.
The theory may sound appealing, but in the end its less sustainable than any other political system. One will always take advantage of the obvious flaws in the system.
Your points make little sense regarding human nature.
In a world of houndeds saving one is a necessary thing for the groups survival.
In a world of Billions, you just replace a lost one with the next, just like we replace broken parts in a Mashine, its a unfortunate truth that everyone is replaceable now, even if we hypothetically clean a entire country out of existence, it would barely impact the rest of humanity, shure it would be in the news a few days, but after that... I doubt you feel actually sorry when hearing or even seeing death to strangers, same with misery, you might think about it for a few weeks, but it goes away and your life goes on. Thats why communism is absolutely impossible.
What is possible is a social market economy, wich is a democratic system but with limitations on capitalistic problems to ensure that even the lowest of society aren't treated like human garbage. But even that is hard to implement in places like China or USA.
There is no perfection, especially in Politics, there will always be pros and cons to everything.
The Way we chose and will choose will always be paved with corpses and misery. It will never change unless we change the human itself.
Stay in your Pipe dream.
Arguing with you brings me no further in life and just costs my lifetime, you have the same mindset as a conspiracy theorist, i won't change that.
Okay, so this is a case of communism not going the way you claim it is currently going in other places. So can you please name one of those places?