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[–] Johanno@feddit.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

First of all calling it a genocide is debatable.

Secondly, while the people are victims, the Hamas is not. If the Hamas would have cared for their people, they would have done so years ago. Right now they are fucked. Because I don't think neathu ie backing down.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Neither Netanyahu or Hamas are backing down. I'm asking you why you're calling for Hamas to surrender to be killed and accelerate the genocide rather than calling for Israel to stop the genocide.

Calling it genocide isn't debatable if you use the UN or dictionary definition of the word rather than tying yourself in knots to blame the victims for not dying faster.

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because the opposite is the case. A surrender would stop the war.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

What on earth makes you think that after:

  • Israel have declined the dozens of ceasefires offered to them (unlike those Hamas monsters)

  • Israel funded Hamas' displacement of the secular moderates (why if not to manufacture the pretext for this genocide at the predictable expense of Israeli lives?)

  • Israel have maintained Palestine as an open air concentration camp (UN and Human Rights Watch's words not mine) for decades, controlling movement, trade, food, water, power, and "policing" them oppressively in a manner that bears no resemblance to their policing of Israelis

  • Israel spent decades killing and displacing God knows how many Palestinians in an obvious attempt to drive them out and steal their land

  • Israel have committed countless warcrimes (both before and since October 7th), killed the most journalists and aid workers per day of any conflict in history, and killed tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians while refusing to hold the IDF accountable for the warcrimes they're shamelessly posting online for clout.

  • Israel just can't stop screaming genocidal rhetoric like calls for a second, larger Amalek, the extermination of Palestinians, and calling Palestinians animals.

A surrender would stop the war in that Israel would simply wrap up their genocide faster and have noone left to murder... but I'm not a fucking demon, so I see that as an acceptable outcome.

Is your solution to school shootings to have all the schoolkids line up in an orderly fashion to be executed? I'd hate to think you wrapped your evil in a bow of inconsistency.