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[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If they consider allowing women to get abortions infanticide, I can see where they're coming from. From another perspective, if they consider donating weapons to Israel to help them kill Gazans, including children, infanticide, that would also be something that many Democrats support.

Edit: I didn't say my own opinions on either of these being infanticide, or at least immoral. I was just trying to understand it from various points of view, to see what they could have meant.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The main issue is they are claiming that Democrats want to (and abortion clinics are) killing infants after they are born.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah if you avoid the obvious [Source](https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/07/1152281, but I know you blue no matter who so literally nothing is a deal-breaker for you. Tell me more how much you only support a candidate for not being Republican.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I avoided the obvious fact that the Republican candidate for president would happily put my queer daughter in a concentration camp.

Sorry, not willing to add another genocide to the mix.

But do tell me who you think I should vote for that will end the genocide in Gaza.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Chase Oliver would absolutely end our genocide support Source, and I hear this kinda hyperbole all the time but the truth is Trump is a populist he does whatever whim comes his way, with that attitude he really is more likely than Harris to end our genocide support. Idk how you came to think your daughter is in harm’s way by not voting Harris, but def sounds like Blue No Matter who syndrome. You can’t think hes a brain dead fool and some master tactician at the same time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've never even heard of Chase Oliver.

You must realize this person has a zero percent chance of winning the election, right? Voting for them will do nothing to stop genocide.

One of two possible people will be in the Oval Office in January and one of those two is not Chase Oliver.

def sounds like Blue No Matter who syndrome.

What part of "I don't want my queer daughter to be put in a concentration camp" do you not understand here?

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The media blocks him out but he is the only third party on almost all ballots. You support Harris because you think they’ll win, you did not even challenge my candidate on anything only “winnabillity” thats blue no matter who which is just this season’s tea party to me. Again please point to a concentration camp Trump would open? Cause I saw Trump had migrants in vacant office buildings until the dems said that was bad and Biden made them start sleeping under a bridge. That you can’t even fathom that Harris is part of the problem has me legit worried.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You support Harris because you think they’ll win

Yes. And my daughter won't be put in a concentration camp.

For fuck's sake...

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you ignored my ask for proof and/or what makes you think that? Again why do you think that besides “Trump Bad”? And not to be mean but since we pulling threads what do you think of Gazans in Ghettoes currently? They are literally in a camp right now and youll vote to support that because of a hypothetical but you are not a scared sheep 🙄 You: we need those things to be safe

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Again why do you think that besides “Trump Bad”?

Project 2025.

I mean you seem to imply Trump was good for queer people.

https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of-trumps-unprecedented-steps-for-the-lgbtq-community

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So wet-dream conservative propaganda that Trump has rebuked, often is your proof? Like even in project 2025 can you point me to the interning gender queer people?. Like half of the stuff your link lists is not even LGBTQIA anything, it’s just we hate Trump and this might affect a queer person maybe one day.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How often is this telling people "don't give a fuck about your own kids" strategy a success for you?

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you ignored everything I said and actual sources to tell me? Blue no matter who? Cause thats literally all I hear you literally shut down and refused to engage. And you are better than the tea party a decade or two back, because?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You're right. I refuse to engage with someone who thinks that I should have to justify why I'm not willing to put my child at risk.

And if you have any children, someone needs to call CPS.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you have resorted to insulting me for again i don’t even know where you grievances comes from? You are scared of a policy that doesn’t exist, no one has asked for, and people have literally spoken against but its enough for you to insult and question my life choices? Like this was all you hating someone so much you lost critical thinking.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where my grievance comes from? Maybe from the person who repeatedly is forcing me to justify my fear for my child.

Also, you complain about me insulting you at the beginning of your post and then insult me at the end. I guess it's okay when you do it.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So in all that could have addressed your evasiveness, refusal to answer my question, or even where does your fear come from? In the end you said nothing to have the last word.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, in the end I'm saying who the hell are you to tell me what I should be doing to protect my child or make me justify it? Where the hell do you get off telling me what is best for me to do as a parent? What gives you the fucking right?

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are angry and indignant, about again a policy that does not exist and no one asked for, but I ask what has you outraged? Because it sounds like I set you off for a literally hypothetical that isnt a possibility, like why are you upset?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nope. I'm angry and indignant that you think you know what's better for my child than I do. Stop trying to twist my words. You already tried once and it won't work.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am not twisting anything, or even claiming anything about your child. Like I am seriously asking you what you don’t like about a policy that does not exist and no one wants, and how it affects you. I literally gave you no parenting advice and told you Harris is trying to scare you, and you took so much issue with that you want to doubt everything I told you without knowing me because? And your sources are literally none?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Again, I am not going to justify voting for Harris over Trump in order to protect my child to you.

You can lie about it being anything else than that, as you have repeatedly done. It doesn't change the fact that the primary reason I am voting the way I am voting is to protect my child.

And I could not give less of a shit if you don't think she's at risk.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sir where have I lied? And you literally only double-down on ignoring facts and your support for Harris, you and people like you are why moderates will never vote Harris cause this is Comical/Really Sad how much gymnastics you can do to support someone you do not even like, literally only said people don’t Harris and you made up fake policies, fake Trump support, and insulting me, you think I would ever take your side after this?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where have you lied about me?

Let's go through the lies:

Lie:

but I know you blue no matter who so literally nothing is a deal-breaker for you. Tell me more how much you only support a candidate for not being Republican.

Lie:

Idk how you came to think your daughter is in harm’s way by not voting Harris, but def sounds like Blue No Matter who syndrome.

Lie. In this case, you put literal words in my mouth:

They are literally in a camp right now and youll vote to support that because of a hypothetical but you are not a scared sheep 🙄 You: we need those things to be safe

Lie about what I posted, which anyone who just clicks on the link can see:

Like half of the stuff your link lists is not even LGBTQIA anything

Lie:

Blue no matter who? Cause thats literally all I hear

Lie:

In the end you said nothing to have the last word.

Lie:

You are angry and indignant, about again a policy that does not exist and no one asked for,

Not a single one of those things you said are true. And unless you are going to start arguing that you know me better than I do, good luck trying to prove otherwise.

And as for you taking my side, I couldn't give less of a shit about whose side you take.

This has been all about you attacking me for who I am voting for.

As far as I'm concerned, you could vote for Nick Fuentes. Wouldn't bother me one bit.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you ignored all my facts gave only opinions and that still doesn’t support you, squid you post 500x a day, i may not know you, but i know your cadence, and you really can’t admit that you lied multiple times to support supporting Harris. Like shes literally horrible, screaming Trump bad is not helping especially when you say that legit discussion is not to be had.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wow. Really? You really are doing the "I know you better than you do which is why those things I said are true including the fake quote I made up and put in your mouth" thing?

And, much like me not giving a shit who you vote for, I also don't give a shit what you think of any of the candidates.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

You really could just ignore me, but you wont let anyone else have the last word. Just when you sleep I want you to remember you literally lied multiple times about why you support Harris, and then called me stupid for not supporting her. And you think you do not have an abundance of hate in your heart?

[–] HereticalDoughnut@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Damn you’re dense. Next you’ll be trying to convince us that a narcissistic asshole who’s only ambition in life is to enrich himself is somehow better for Gaza and women’s rights. Trump could not find Gaza on a map let alone help stop a war.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And the sad part is he gives so little fucks about Gaza he might pull us out by accident. Harris has made clear she would never ever withdraw no matter what. Thats better because?

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He might accidentally pull us out of...a place the US military is not even deployed.

What are you even smoking?!?

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Bro Idk if you wanna believe what they tell you, but how do you think a pier was built in Gaza by American forces with no boots on the ground? Where are the weapons coming from? Like you gotta ignore alot to say we aren’t there.