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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's fundamentally beside the point that the entire neoliberal edifice is demonstrably the worst thing for the Palestinians, and building an actual opposition does mean your opponent is liable to increase their aggression. A hypothetical Trump win is nothing but neoliberalism getting more aggressive as it is challenged (scratch a liberal, etc.). We cannot let fear of that turn us away from strategies that can actually solve things in the long term because all hands are too committed to bailing water instead of fixing the leak.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've said before that people who want America to get better have to be prepared to lose; we should be voting for third party (I'm a Jill Stein supporter myself) even if it means we lose this election. We may even lose the next one, but how many elections can we lose before people get sick of Republican victories and have zero choice but to vote third party? The Republican party itself is getting more unhinged because the DNC keeps supporting the most psychotic elements so they can tell dem voters you have to vote for them.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't think we should minimise the dangers of the Republicans creating a one party state or there being a military coup. I mean, the Democrats won't do anything to stop it, but we don't have an electoral path in America at all. Maybe we did a couple of decades ago, not anymore.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Prisoner's Dilemma

If we work together this doesn't have to come to pass. Unfortunately most Americans aren't advanced in their knowledge of politics to understand this. It's all "My team" vs. "Their team" and culture reinforces this.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

how does having two parties matter when they both represent capital?

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

It doesn't. I'm just saying that the electoral path does not exist for the left in the us. This is true now, but especially true if republicans fulfill their wet dream of creating an open dictatorship of the bourgeoise

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

The US is already a one party state.