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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Still waiting on an example to prove that progressives adopt the opposite policies, take your time, do your research, I don't mind.

You're the one who's saying that it's a right wing only policy, the onus of the proof is on you.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Still waiting on an example to prove that progressives adopt the opposite policies

Sure, just give me an example of any country without any resources that has a space program. I'll wait. It's what you're arguing after all.

This is the shit you're doing. You're LYING about my position and then demanding that I defend a position I neither stated nor hold. And all because you know you're spouting Republican talking points because you agree with Republicans' racist motivations for their shitty border policy.

And just like you adopted Republican talking points for your support of racist Republican border policy, the instant the party throws trans people under the bus and shifts into reverse and drive a couple dozen times in the vain hopes that they will peel off a few fascist votes, you'll be screaming that there are only two genders.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's not the same thing at all. You're implying that progressives want open borders yet when progressives get in power they don't open their borders to migrants, they keep applying the same kind of restrictions that Republicans/conservatives want for the same reason they want them. Thus, saying that a country can't just accept to let in anyone and everyone without keeping some control on the influx isn't a Republican/conservative opinion, it's just what countries do no matter who is in power because that's what must be done.

No matter how progressive you are, you won't let just anyone in your house to start living with you and you won't want people to come in through the window to start living in your attic without you knowing, you'll want them to come in through the door so you can meet them and make sure it's someone you want to become your roommate.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You’re implying that progressives want open borders

I am not. That's a strawman you've constructed.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok so they don't want open borders and then saying border control is necessary isn't a conservative opinion.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, casting anything to your left as "open borders" is a conservative talking point.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well you've got two choices, controlled borders and opened borders so...

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What we had before Democrats moved to the right and adopted Republican policies like you wanted wasn't "open borders."

And since that didn't pass, what we have now still isn't open borders. No matter how much you and your Republican thinkalikes claim it is.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sooooo... Saying the border needs to be controlled as it has always have been isn't a Republican opinion, it's just what countries do.

Glad we finally agree.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You agree with Republicans on the border. And everything else. Don't pollute my inbox with your racist apologia again.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree with the Democrats as well and with any progressive government anywhere in the world that doesn't stop controlling its country's border so... All of them? And if you don't want opened borders then I'm sorry to tell you that you do in fact agree with that as well!

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you say so. Now will you go bother someone else?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just block me if you're not happy

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh, that's what all this has been about? You've decided to pester me nonstop with Republican talking points to get me to block you?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, just trying to make you realize that what you're saying doesn't make sense.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Only Republican policy makes sense to you.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I guess all countries in the world have the Republicans in power then...

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't join the conversation if you're not ready to bring arguments to the table to prove your point.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Why? You've already decided that my arguments aren't what I say they are and that they're what you imagine them to be.

You're arguing with your own imagination and you can do that in my absence.

Please go bother someone else.