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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can someone give me a quick explanation why Picard is hated and bad? I never liked TNG, tried it a few times and I couldn't get through the first two seasons I found it so cheesy and cringe and that's saying a lot considering I love TOS. But yeah I never got into TNG so didn't watch Picard and don't know why people hate it

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Starting on point 2 with TNG, I'd recommend going back more or less where you left off. Season 3 is where things finally start to gel with the crew and most of the writing. Expect the occasional speedbump along the way (oddly more with season 7, but that's because it was used as a dumping ground for unused story ideas).

As for Picard: there's a fair amount of weak writing, a lot of exposition without showcase, underdeveloped secondary/tertiary characters, and a good amount of fanservice. I'll admit, the fanservice actually helped season 3, despite Patrick Stewart's disdain. Terry Matalas salvaged, to whatever degree, the shows last hurrah. Probably faced a ton of studio interference, but I still view his work as a general success.

[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've never watched Picard myself, but the the main thing I took away from watching the video was that the person who made it loved TNG for being a show that tried to take a realistic look at our problems and present a fun show about a world where we have found solutions for them, while inspiring people all over the world, including the person who made the video, to become scientists and engineers. Meanwhile Picard is a show that is miserable and hopeless and will never inspire anyone to do anything. Also it just wasn't well written.

That's just my personal main take away from a single video about a show I haven't watched, so take that for what it's worth.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Tbf even Gene Roddenberry had given up hope on the idea of a future humanity where we have overcome these basic issues. By the end of his life he knew that the human race he portrayed in TOS was unrealistic, and that humans in a thousand years would be exactly like they are now, and how they were a thousand years ago. Same ape brain.

[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Trust me, I am all too familiar with losing hope in humanity as I get older and more cynical. That doesn't mean I want to spend my time watching a show about torture and misery and sadness and hopelessness. I want something better out of fiction than I get out of real life. Otherwise, what's even the point?

[–] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Source? That’s interesting and sad to read.