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For me, it may be that the toilet paper roll needs to have the open end away from the wall. I don't want to reach under the roll to take a piece! That's ludicrous!

That or my recent addiction to correcting people when they use "less" when they should use "fewer"

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[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My reasoning is that a hotdog is a sausage. When you say you want a sandwich, you don't say "pass me a ham" you say "pass me a ham sandwich." When ordering a named sandwich, "I'll have a Ruben" it's widely understood that a Ruben is a sandwich so the modifier is already packaged in the name. A sandwich has "Sandwich" as a defining modifier.

When you ask for a hotdog you don't say, "give me a hotdog sandwich" you say, "give me a hotdog." The same situation works with bratwurst, you don't order a brat sandwich. To further reinforce this, if you're in the south and central US and order a Hotlink it comes on it's own or in a hotdog bun but if you order a "hotlink sandwich" you get two hotlinks cut length wise and placed on a hamburger bun or bread.

A sausage can have a bun as a condiment and still be just a sausage. A sandwich can have sausage, but is still refered to as a sandwich. So a hotdog is a sausage served with bread, not a sandwich.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Are pepperoni and salami sausages?

It doesn't change your sandwich example since they still fit if they are sausages, but sausage is another example of a name that is consistent except for all the times it isn't.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are pepperoni and salami sausages?

Yes.

It doesn't change your sandwich example since they still fit if they are sausages,

It does unless you're putting an entire pepperoni or salami in one piece on your bread and still call it a sandwich. I would call bread with a number of thin hotdog-slices still a sandwich, too.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nobody calls papperoni sausage when it is on pizza though. That is consistent with your example that a sausage is generally called a sausage only if it has not been sliced.

Except for summer sausage.

Honestly the biggest takeway from the whole discussion is that what we call food is completely arbitrary and just people going along with what the most vocal people are saying. Which is true about any informal communication.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 3 points 3 months ago

Maybe this is a language thing, but on Dutch we very much call slices sausage “sausage” (well “worst” but that means “sausage” in Dutch). So I'm used to salami on pizza being gesneden worst / sliced sausage.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

a bun as a condiment

Uh