this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2024
129 points (75.7% liked)

Asklemmy

43856 readers
1661 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

As title, if you have post or link any useful resource you have

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It just so happens that under Russian rule, Russian rulers will be making profit instead of Ukrainian rulers.

I think we're missing a couple of nuances here, no? Although it's a stretch to call them nuance. The way Ukrainian rulers have been making money has been through privatization. And because there's so much privatization we need to look at who owns Ukraine's economy. It's only escalated since Russia invaded, with national assets being sold off to foreign private sectors so cheaply that one has to wonder why they did it when the gains are a drop in the bucket compared to the direct aid they've been getting from Western public sectors.

If Ukraine emerges from this conflict with its own sovereignty, it'll be sovereignty over a flag, a presidential palace and a state framework that protects foreign companies' investments from hungry Ukrainians.

[โ€“] coolusername@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The country is dead. They sold their infrastructure to blackrock and other investment firms. They are now taking out loans to buy weapons which won't do shit against Russia. The country is gutted by capital. Zelensky himself has at least two mansions in other countries including one in Miami. He will either get killed Diem-style (backstabbed by the US/CIA) or flee. It's also possible Azov nazis kill him.

[โ€“] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's only because Russia has already privatized and sold off all of its national assets to oligarchs after the fall of the USSR.

[โ€“] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago

that doesn't make sense in the context of the post you replied to

[โ€“] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The reason the US has a special hate-on for Putin is precisely because he kicked the Western shock therapists out of the country. He stanched the tide of privatization.