Today I Learned
What did you learn today? Share it with us!
We learn something new every day. This is a community dedicated to informing each other and helping to spread knowledge.
The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:
Rules (interactive)
Rule 1- All posts must begin with TIL. Linking to a source of info is optional, but highly recommended as it helps to spark discussion.
** Posts must be about an actual fact that you have learned, but it doesn't matter if you learned it today. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.**
Rule 2- Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.
Your post subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.
Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.
Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.
Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.
That's it.
Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.
Posts and comments which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.
Rule 6- Regarding non-TIL posts.
Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-TIL posts using the [META] tag on your post title.
Rule 7- You can't harass or disturb other members.
If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.
Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.
For further explanation, clarification and feedback about this rule, you may follow this link.
Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.
Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.
Let everyone have their own content.
Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.
Unless included in our Whitelist for Bots, your bot will not be allowed to participate in this community. To have your bot whitelisted, please contact the moderators for a short review.
Partnered Communities
You can view our partnered communities list by following this link. To partner with our community and be included, you are free to message the moderators or comment on a pinned post.
Community Moderation
For inquiry on becoming a moderator of this community, you may comment on the pinned post of the time, or simply shoot a message to the current moderators.
view the rest of the comments
I am going to guess he's just borrowing from something from his past but has trouble translating it into something people would more traditionally get. But ultimately, I don't know too much about Morrissey - other than at one point he was liked culturally (by those who listened to him) and then there was a sharp turn in which he is now greatly disliked. I enjoy The Smiths, although I'm not gunna lie and be absolutely honest in that I found them as an adult. But all things aside I am wondering if it's because he is quite vocal about his opinions and they are quite unfavorable. And once you are seen as an "enemy of the status quo" you are open for ridicule as a whole.
But also he gave things a go. Eh.
But I do know he spoke out against meat and the tories. So eh. But someone else is probably way more tuned in on this as a whole over <<< moi.
He's kinda a shithead. And by all accounts enjoys being seen in that light. IMO he claims more than his share for the success of The Smiths. Just listen to any Johnny Marr solo songs and it's clear where their sound came from.
Don't know a damn thing about a damn thing here. I really don't know too much about a, b, or c. I just know folks hate him and that's been pretty consistent for quite some time now. Cunts gunna cunt, but I don't think that's too off from how I hear it is with headmen (is that what they call them?) at the time.
He's a huge racist.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2019-10-24/morrissey-anti-immigrant-white-nationalist-hollywood-bowl
I literally started reading this and I just don't care enough to have this information floating around my head. I don't like celebrity worship. But I also hate bullying. And I consider sitting around laughing at people that. So that's why I figured I'd state something. Not so much because I want to defend Morrissey. More so because he did a thing, let sleeping dogs lay. Who gives a crap? And people can believe in whatever they want, as long as they're not plowing in to others. I do agree that celebrities should be more responsible with their beliefs. But I also think people are entitled to their opinions even if they're absolutely drenched in shit. I've got nothing else. You want him to fade? Don't bring him up. But bullying is for chumps regardless of how it's done.
Sorry... you think by posting a thread about Morrissey's shitty book on Lemmy, I'm bullying him?
Because if Morrissey is on Lemmy and he's that easily bullied, let me say this to him: Get fucked Morrissey, you racist piece of shit. Your book is awful and you're worse.
I think in general people gawking at one another is not only training us to react to things that challenge us with bullying (mockery) but equally it doesn't help us grow as a people. I hate racist, I don't benefit a damn thing from hanging with racists. But I will also say that racism is there. I am not going to pretend it's not. And I will also say that by thinking/talking/etc. feeding the media machine and filling it with someone's name you basically increase the chatter about them. Which I suppose you can see right now.
But that all together I would love the face of the internet to change because I think we're too prone to low-level jeering. And I think we can do better as a people. Which I would say is why I have never been on 4Chan and was very happy to leave Reddit. Because people who communicate like that in real life a fucking assholes. And I don't really want to be a part of that. Putting someone down, to pick myself up.
You are welcome to not be a part of people taking the piss out of a right-wing racist antivaxxer piece of shit. No one else seems to have a problem with it.
I am absolutely happy to show what an untalented hack he has become.
But ultimately it doesn't matter? And I just wanted to say that basically. That we're not gaining anything by sitting around pointing and laughing at someone. I mean we really aren't. And that was the stance that I wanted to take. That I think we could all use some more balance to our internet expression.
Which is a leap and a bound for myself, as I am a real fuck-face of expression. But ultimately I just don't think it's cool everyone sits around pointing and laughing at anyone in front of me or online I suppose.
I'm gaining a lot. I'm gaining entertainment. I value that a lot.
But you've let us all know how morally superior you are, so now you can leave us to our hedonistic ways.
I am not sure what's up with you. But I suppose, this just gave me the answer.