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  • Google is transitioning Chrome's extension support from the Manifest V2 framework to the V3.
  • This means users won't be able to use uBlock Origin to block ads on Google Chrome.
  • However, there's a new iteration of the app — uBlock Origin Lite, which is Manifest V3 compliant but doesn't boast the original version's comprehensive ad-blocking features.
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[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 70 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Use Firefox. If something you use ABSOLUTELY needs Chromium yell at whoever makes the thing. If that still doesn't work use Brave. But then go back to Firefox for everything else.

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I've switched to Brave. I only use it for general internet use. What am i missing out on if i don't go back to Firefox?

[–] Voltage@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I know its everyone's personal choice and all that but in my opinion people should stop using chromium engine browsers. It was a good engine however the fact that chromium has the majority users is the only thing holding lazy developers from porting websites to work with other browser engines gives google more control.

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So what are the better options. I don't know much (anything) about web engines. Privacy is my top priority.

[–] stetech@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Most “browsers” being marketed out there are based off of Google’s Chromium project. They are effectively re-skins of it (simplifying a little). Examples include Brave, Vivaldi, Opera I believe.

Firefox is completely separate and independent from this ecosystem (which is also why there’s a separate extension store for Firefox).

The third and last major (>a couple % market share) engine is WebKit, which is the basis of Apple’s Safari.

There’s tons of cool stuff out there, but it’s either niche (platform/use case), unstable to use, and/or both. Examples: Servo, Ladybird, Orion

To sum it up, if you’re a normal, average user:

  • If you have exclusively Apple devices, probably try Safari (for the synchronization & battery efficiency)
  • If not, Firefox!
  • If you need it because of some really messed up development/compatibility issues, the last resort is ungoogled/de-googled Chromium

While on the topic, here’s some cool browser extensions:

Edit: fixed a link

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Wow, thanks! I had no idea there was Bitwarden extension.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What you are missing out on? Probably not much. Some sites might even work worse if you switch, due to lazyness or sabotage by devs.

Using Firefox is good for the ecosystem in general, to have a counter balance to Google. I use both Firefox and chromium and see very little difference. Some extensions might be worth it (like the title says), so that might be a difference for you.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Cool, I'll give it a shot.

Edit: is there a mobile version?

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

short answer: No

long answer: Most people just like to shout-out what they like, and don't want to know your use case. If you need pc/mobile sync, Firefox will be your best choice here.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

Support for Chromuin backed browsers ?

I keep Throriim there for the odd shit ball site thear refuses but then thats the point.

[–] Rob@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

What’s the general consensus on Arch? I really like the UX, although I stuck to Firefox on mobile.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Screw that. Use Firefox, but if you need Chrome, use brave, use Vivaldi, use Opera for all it mattwrs. Asanything that still works is fine.

This brave paranoia is just insane. You don't want crypto, don't use it. You don't trust brave use Vivaldi, but spreading fake fear is BS.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Brave altered URLs clicked to add their own affiliate links. Browsers should go to where you click. That's like their whole job. There are reasons to dislike Brave apart from crypto.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

4 years ago

Also Firefox sends all of your browser data to Google for safe browsing checks Right now.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you talking about this? They say it only calls out to get updated lists and when you actually arrive at a phishing page to check if the page is still marked as suspicious.

Source: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-does-phishing-and-malware-protection-work#w_what-information-is-sent-to-mozilla-or-its-partners-when-phishing-and-malware-protection-is-enabled

Also, I agree it was 4 years ago. That's a fair point. To me it's super important and they've probably permanently lost my trust (or at least it's always going to be besmudged). If you believe they've changed in that time period (or it's not as critical to you) then that's fine.

For what it's worth, when I need a Chromium based browser because the site has a bug and won't work with Firefox my (current) go to is Brave. I use it on a semi regular basis because dndbeyond.com works poorly with Firefox. So every 2 to 4 weeks I use it for that.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

You can also disable FF from connecting to safe browsing with flags. I prefer to let my DNS handle that list.

My Work ADP portal also misbehaves in FF.

I've also made FF stop using Google search for anything.

I advocate people use whatever works for them. I'd advocate for Edge, but they have already clarified they intend to follow Chrome to the letter.

Vivaldi has claimed they intend to fork and not enforce V3, but acknowledge it's no small feat and they may fail.

Operam I believe has claimed they intend not to enforce V3

Brave goes as far as saying that they're immune to it even if they turned it on.

I don't trust any browser 100% Firefox was close and is still my most trusted.

I'm down with pushing everyone into Firefox, but I'm not loving the chrome variant hate. Use whatever works unless the browsers are currently acting bad.

[–] CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You don’t want crypto, don’t use it.

I use Brave as my Chrome based browser when not using Floorp but there were other issues with Brave in the past like injecting their affiliate links unbeknownst to users so they could make money off them. They have reverted that decision but that they thought it was acceptable in the first place leaves some to question, rightly, what other shenanigans they might pull. They've also had issues with paying out Creators BAT tokens.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yep company's not totally trustworthy neither is Google neither is Microsoft. By the way, Firefox still sends all of your websites to Google to get safe traffic prompts.

Brave also got and slapped by the SEC for the handling of their crypto sales.

The link issue you're speaking of was 4 years ago. The CEO issued a formal apology.

They're a funded company they are trying to make money to pay the developers to stay solvent.

On the upside they're using that money to fight Google's ad blocking and to keep manifest V3 optional.

The way they block the ads happens outside of manifest so even if they take the manifest code they still won't have ads. Of the chromium ancestry browsers they are the most likely to continue running long-term. They're also the fastest solution for YouTube blocking when YouTube makes changes.

I main Firefox but still use brave over edge or opera.

Right now, we need all the boats we have. Not everything works in Firefox you need to have a backup,