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I don't see how the two things (tools for people to use and prevention of discrimination) are mutually exclusive
Apologies. I had no way of knowing which of these things it was supposed to be and shouldn't have begun by assuming it was supposed to be a coherent analysis.
Got ya. Makes sense.
I think it's a matter of outlining/brainstorming vs. actual creative work. Instead of telling it to write for you, you ask it to give you options and then you either come up with a better option, or choose an option and write it yourself. It can maximize the amount of time you do art and minimize the amount of time you spend working on bullet pointed outlines and other "office work" that you do before you do art. Also a tool is only as creative as its user. You can use these things creatively. You ask it questions like "what are some common frameworks to tackle problem X" and then you still research and choose and use the framework you want. It just lists concepts you may not have previously been familiar with. As for it using a lot of fossil fuel, that is more of an infrastructural problem. We aren't exclusively using renewable energy as a society, so everything we do with electricity uses fossil fuel.
I don't think it eliminates the subject of the artist though. It's a tool that will get used by artists. People said the same thing about photoshop, 3D editors. etc.
this is built into the mode of production itself, not the tools people use
The following is intended to be read in a neutral tone: I don't understand why quotes are around "anti-progress" since I did not use those words in my original post which you are responding to. I am unsure what part of my post you're responding to. I hope you don't think I was calling you a luddite. I wasn't calling you a luddite: Which I don't view as a pejorative in any case. I was pointing out that the luddites had a very good reason to be mad and their methods proved ineffective. They weren't against "progress" they were against losing their jobs. They lost their jobs because of capitalism, not machinery. I don't view technology as some kind of moral or ethical progress. I just think it's impossible to make everyone stop using a tool once it has been invented. It's "pandora's box". The only way technology stops getting used is if the means of producing it dry up.
I wasn't speculating that AI junk killed the arts nor was I speculating what would lead to revolution.
I'm not defeatist, I just think we should organize against the mode of production and not the means of production. I thought that was clear in my original post.
ok, that wasnt clear. I was having some other shit going on (feel free to look at my other comments today) when replying so I might have become defensive.
ok, my intention was to point the misuse of the means of production in light-hearted way (though I am sceptical about positive use cases for "AI", I am not super serious on here bc I dont think one can have deep theory convos on most of this online stuff. When you say it like this, I agree and I am glad we could reach an understanding