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So I think we already know the outlines of the typical criticisms of Breadtube, namely that it's vaguely-leftist content that focuses on cultural critique and gives a nod to socialist theory here and there but it doesn't actually achieve anything and it's just a media-consumption demographic with no moves towards anything that resembles on the ground organising and activism. (Obviously there are a few outliers but as a rule this generally holds true.)

I dipped out of Breadtube years ago for plenty of reasons but I just posted on Lemmygrad criticising the SPD Three Arrows movement which prompted me to have a look at the Breadtuber Three Arrows and they have done exactly the same thing that Contrapoints and a lot of other large figures in this genre have done:

They build up a healthy Patreon base and then their content drops off to like a couple of videos a year, if that, while continuing to draw off a personal salary which rivals that of a full-time worker.

In the past two years Three Arrows has produced 4 videos, amounting to less than 4.5 hours of runtime all up.

That's staggering for someone who is getting over 60k a year, at the most conservative estimate.

Likewise Contrapoints claimed to be getting 20k a month and she's putting out like 1-2 videos a year. And there's plenty of other examples of this too.

Imagine what could be done if people supported their local grassroots organisations instead of paying boatloads of cash for their twice-yearly YouTube treats smh.

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[โ€“] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I understand your point, but I find a bit hard to believe they suddenly have the opposite class consciousness considering they are still much, much further away from anyone that actually owns the means of production. And simply put, they should know better.

[โ€“] Moss@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

they should know better

Sure, if they were actually communists. Most of them were always libs, but they used to be radlibs. Its clear that people like hbomberguy and contrapoints have never actually read Marx.

I don't think its a coincidence that Abi Thorne is one of the only major original breadtubers who has read marx and also keeps uploading consistently. I don't watch her videos anymore but she obviously has read a lot of theory