Fun fact: The nowadays conservative (and IMO right leaning) German CDU has originally considered capitalism to be the reason for outbreak for WW2. They wanted to form a new Christian Socialism, which would've united Christian ideals with a socialistic (not marxistic) economy. The so-called Kölner Erklärung was written in 1945 as a basic idea for where Germany should head from perspective of the CDU.

These ideas didn't last for long and got replaced by a conservative fiscal policy. But it is good to keep in mind that even in the CDU there were people who recognized that capitalism ultimately has a strong tendency to fuel fascism. In Nazi Germany, the main capitalists worked closely with the NSDAP - Krupp, Bosch, Hugo Boss (who famously designed the Nazi uniforms), Volkswagen were all lead by rich capitalists who saw (and gained) profit by the actions of the Nazis. It makes me sad that even the SPD, the so-called Social Democratic Party, long forgot what it means to fight for socialism and equality, and instead embraces neoliberalism with a touch of social politics.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It makes so much more fundamental sense for the followers of Jesus to embrace socialist values as opposed to the tendency of Christians to follow both conservative and capitalistic politics.

I'm an atheist but I was raised Christian Catholic and the stark contrast between the religious texts and parables with the actions of the average Christian or the Church was a great contributor to my rejection of religion. I still see value in some of the teachings (be nice to others, people before material things) and always took them closer to socialism values than the Supply Side Jesus right-leaning Christians adopted.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same. I always wondered how ideas like giving what you can, loving thy neighbour, and forgiveness to the extreme somehow results in Supply Side Jesus, "Protestant work ethic", jail time for addictions, "law and order" politics, etc..

These people have strayed so far from the teachings and I'm not sure how they can claim to follow them and then blame homeless people for being homeless.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Exactly, like all religions anybody can dig into the texts and find a justification for their personal and political views but the Jesus I was brought up with, while I don't believe he existed, had some pretty decent key points (forgiveness, love, sharing, empathy, charity...). These contrast strongly with the judgemental, conservative, nationalist, racist "Christians".

They would probably have hung this "rebellious, commie jew" themselves today if their much-awaited second coming had taken place.

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

~~Bose~~ Hugo Boss

[–] greencactus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Thank you, is corrected :)