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[–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because he's a degenerate scam artist who influences young men to do things which are harmful for society. Society needs standards.

Please if he helps young men go to the gym and improve mental health then what's the problem

That's not what Andrew Tate did. Andrew Tate tells men that they are worthless unless they're wealthy, strong, and promiscuous like him, and then extracts money from them so they can attend his "hustle university" and learn surface-level Investipedia knowledge from a moderator on the Andrew Tate discord server.

People like this should absolutely be ostracized. Being mistreated by society does not give any of us an excuse to be fucking stupid.

[–] Riderzz@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that while everything you say is true and you are right, he is a scammer. But it would be also wrong to say he didn't impact a few men in positive light.

He lit a fire under Men to get up and fix their life through anger and agression. Its the only positive I see. True, I have seen more radicalised with fucking cigars in their mouth doing jackshit and ruining themselves, maybe that is fate telling wokes to wake up and see something is wrong. But there are smart men who indeed get motivated by Tate and i've seen body transformation vids too on it.

This is good as an individual to be successful, healthy, happy, agressive, smart, strong, wise. This is freedom. To forget about the noise/distraction and politics and build your own beliefs, opinions and virtues.

I have always believed in taking bits and stuff from everyone and leaving the negative that doesn't benefit me as a person bc I too have to adapt in society.

[–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I have always believed in taking bits and stuff from everyone and leaving the negative that doesn't benefit me as a person bc I too have to adapt in society.

And I find that while some of what Andrew Tate says has positive effects on society, most of what he says is negative and that it outweighs the positives, and his target demographic, teenage boys, are biologically incapable of comprehending nuance due to their undeveloped brains, and are therefore way too stupid to be trusted to only take the good and leave the bad. Therefore, Andrew Tate and people like him should be ostracized by society.