Was arab spring bad? At the time I thought it was spun as generally good? I was a dumb er lib back then so I've no clue, but I could've sworn it was supposed to be a showcase or framing of the power of social media to organize and overthrow tyranny? Y'all got some unbiased non lib non 'tankie' (only to show a libber lib) source so I can read it through and make my own opinion

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The Arab Spring was not "bad", it was just complicated. Egypt in particular had a lot of radlib "nonviolence" peeps that got sidelined fast after Mubarak fell because they had no party infrastructure and weren't really looking to build one. All the leftists in Egypt had already been killed or fled. The only viable alternative was the Muslim Brotherhood (right wing Muslim party), which the secular Egyptian Army (which also owns like 1/4 of the entire Egyptian economy) absolutely hate. Morsi won the Presidential election, the Brotherhood became the ruling party, and they were subsequently couped by the secular military that installed Mubarak 2.0 aka Sisi.

[–] HexBeara@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

Ok ty for the quick synopsis.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bad. It led to even more pro us/ pro west dictators in power.

[–] HexBeara@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ugh... I'm assuming it was because it left behind a power vacuum? And if that's the case wouldn't the ghouls be ok with it?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As a general rule I've come to a point where if libs like something it's because it's benefiting the US which is in turn probably harming the rest of the world. This is correct 99% of the time.

[–] HexBeara@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

As someone else stated, it wasn't necessarily a bad thing when it had started but eventually devolved. I'll read more into it but it was a pretty quick synopsis to get the gist. And yeah the logic is pretty strong regarding what libs support.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

No there wasn't a vacuum this time, they had picked many of the pro-democracy puppets.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Others already summarized it but if you want to read about it Bevin's If We Burn is a good book that addresses it.