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Leftists who don’t like Biden don’t want to see him in office again, so they don’t want to vote for him, or they want to withhold their vote until he changes course. Seems simple enough.

But that’s not how politics works.

So announcing that you'll vote for him no matter what he does will make him change course? Is that how politics works?

Never, in the history of this country, has there been a president who hasn’t engaged in what the left would regard as unforgivable crimes. This is the nature of presidents, and politicians in general. If you, like me, are on the far left, you should never fully trust or have faith in any elected official.

But when I look at the Biden administration, I see a group of people who can be bullied in a leftist direction on some policy priorities.

lenin-laugh

Can anyone today truly argue that the world wasn’t drastically changed by Gore’s loss in 2000? Even if you don’t accept the argument that Nader’s candidacy is what lost Gore the election, how can you argue that the world wouldn’t have been at least a little better if all of those Nader votes had gone to Gore and put the Dems over the top?

Democrats have held the presidency 50% of the time since 2000.

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[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

can be bullied in a leftist direction

mfers will say this but not give the method of bullying/negotiation tactics, nor what concessions they think are winnable and it pisses me off.

I think its because they know what is realistically winnable would sound pathetic. "Oh uh, maybe he'll make weed schedule 3 instead of 1!"

[–] D61@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Me Remembering: Contrapoints doing the "vote blue no matter who" voter shaming video back in 2020, using the argument for pushing biden left, and posting zero videos in 4 years to organize or agitate for any portion of her US audience to actually engage in activities to push biden to the left.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 months ago

Liberals in a nutshell

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

Oh uh, maybe he'll make weed schedule 3 instead of 1!"

Narrator voice: He would not

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their idea of bullying is also their idea of standing up against bullies: by being snarky and being the bigger man instead of slugging them across the skull

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Absolutely. Completely unwilling to do anything they perceive as against "the rules".

[–] sandinista209@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

The sole purpose of this is so liberals that call themselves leftists can shame people into voting blue for another election cycle, then tune out of politics until the next reactionary steps up. When have any of these losers actually engaged with real life organizing?