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I'm feeling so uneasy with everything I've been seeing. I keep thinking about what we will be this time next year, and if shit hits the fan, what is your plan? I'm queer and was politically active in 2020, so I would potentially be considered a political enemy.

The only blueprint I can think of is what you do in an active shooter situation; Flee, Hide, Fight.

I know there's that romantic notion of "don't be a coward, get out and protest", but I remember the brutality of the 2020 protests firsthand, and even then I thought "thank god I'm going toe to toe with the CPD and not the CCP". Next time is going to be different. The president now has authority to send drone strikes. Protests and riots don't stand a chance agains missiles and live rounds.

Flee- I have an Uncle in Montreal who my family could potentially use as a way to at least temporarily escape the chaos. The hope I'd have is that Canada and other countries would accept American refugees, however that's not a guarantee.

Hide- If borders are closed, lay low and move away from major cities if possible. If civil war breaks out, try to get away from the violence even if you think your side will win. Todays losers may be tomorrows victors.

Fight- If cellular data/ social media algorithms can keep track of you, and surveillance can make sure there's no movement, this would be the last resort of desperation. I guess if possible try to either find a group for safety in numbers, or conversely go guerrilla as groups of resistance would make easy targets.

Sorry my mind is running and I'm getting scared.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 28 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Europe, who is already seeing far right insurgencies due to a few immigrants? Yeah, good idea. And if Trump wins you can basically say goodbye to any sort of future that isn't a hellscape. We're already far behind our dues on climate change and this will be the final nail in the coffin.

[–] Fishy@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

So not everywhere in Europe is right wing (but there are similar trends in certain countries like the US). If the US falls, Europe will be the last stronghold for democracy (which might also fail in a few years).

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup. That is the problem.

Fascism is on the rise around the world. And the countries that have stood firm in the face of it? They are juicy targets for strongman leaders needing an easy win.

At the risk of showing my indoctrinated "american excellence" ass... the US is really a big factor in global security. Because (unless you are on our side) we have a ridiculously large and over funded military and love proxy wars.

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Strongman leaders? Yeah, vote for Eddie Hall, Tom Stoltman, Brian Shaw, Zydrunas Savickas, Hafthor Bjornsson, Mitchell Hooper, etc.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The only solace to be had is that the pendulum eventually swings back. But there's going to be a lot of fuckin misery before that happens.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

By that time we'll see massive streams of climate refugees, water shortages, crop failures, etc.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I didn’t say it was a LOT of solace. 😁

But yeah I lean more towards “we are well and truly fucked” every year.

[–] piefedderatedd@piefed.social 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Europe, who is already seeing far right insurgencies due to a few immigrants?

A few immigrants ? Remember that Europe got a whole bunch of refugees from Ukraine to look after.
And the USA is huge compared to Europe, especially to some small countries in Europe like Belgium, Holland.
The problem of the rise of far-right is more complex.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 9 points 4 months ago

As a German I'm well aware about the amount of people we took in. Still nothing to get riled up over.