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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17199847

@Snowden

The DNC is the only reason you're not currently enjoying a second-term Sanders and a sane Supreme Court.

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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Classic victim blaming.

The only reason we are here is because of Republican actions not Dem inactions.

That's literally not how reality works, OP.

Shame.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago

You haven't contended with reality. It wasn't dem inactions, it was DNC actions. I made a top level comment if you'd like evidence of that claim.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sanders polled better in swing states. States like Michigan and Winsconsin would have been a significantly closer battleground had they chosen the more charismatic person over the system choice.

The DNC picked the choice their core base wanted most, but not the choice the swing states would have voted more likely for. It isn't a game of who you want to win at times, its a game of who would have had a better chance.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 5 months ago

Uh... What? The DNC has always been complicit in the modern state of American politics.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

You think the DNC is a victim?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Classic victim blaming.

Yes, that's what this @jimmydoreisalefty guy does. He says he "criticizes the left from the left" but on a closer look, that's all he does. Curious.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If democrats could have managed to find a likable candidate in 2016 things would be different. How could you find someone more likable than Hillary?

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The amount of disinformation funneled into the US social media platforms was also on a whole different level than ever seen before. Facebook itself spread enough disinformation and propaganda that it single-handedly helped disenfranchise a large number of people. It's really what helped create Trumps cult, and divided everyone else.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yep, it was just a messaging problem, not a reality problem.

It certainly wasn't that Clinton ran the most incompetent campaign in my lifetime. Ignoring the Midwest swing States, even as their local Democratic parties begged for support couldn't have had anything to do with it.

Her support for war, from murdering Gaddafi and wanting to start ww3 with Russia over Syria, and voting for Iraq were all just historical notes of no importance to anyone.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

Zuck literally went to court for helping Trump get elected using big data. The Cambridge Analytica scandal was basically the plot of Watch Dogs

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 3 points 5 months ago

So Trump, but with Trump you also knew he was going to bring racism out of the shadow and put it on a pedestal. He also turned the misogyny up to 11. Hillary was 100% the lesser of 2 evils, but that message was lost to all the "drinking baby blood" and other complete horseshit.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago

Yeah they should have checked likeability, maybe by holding a vote on it that everyone who wanted a say would participate in and say who they liked the most!

Surely that nasty wasty clinton wouldn't have won in a vote head to head with the living saint Bernie!