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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

causally slipped “by the way fairies are real”

wait, what? What sort of context? Multiple people? FFS TELL

[–] self@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

so I think I must just have one of those faces cause it’s been something that multiple former friends have revealed to me, and it’s usually a weird show of trust? and it’s always something like “you know, I just think fairies must be real, like they’ve got to be out there? you know?”

and in all cases I’ve gone “…oh that’s cool” and mentally earmarked that person as “do not trust with heavy machinery”

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

just remembered someone i met decades ago going on and on about spiritualism and ESP and just happened to drop in their own massive racism, there's definitely a type

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago

The crystals to anti-vaxx to full-blown fascism pipeline is real and I have more than a few cousins deep in that KKK hole. Hate to be a science brodude, but all the spiritualism stuff can be a gullibility magnet for those prone to self radicalisation (the bad type)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

yeah i have one of those faces too (tall, blue eyes, Danish cheekbones), disconcerting number of nazis who wanted me to be in with them

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I get the club invite most times I speak afrikaans in pretoria

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

in australia the club invite is just a way of saying "hi" to your fellow white person

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 10 points 4 months ago

I've never had the full on "let's be nazis together" invite but I've had several people launch unprompted into "now that it's just us white folks we can talk for real" mode. internally they must have been like "I see white skin, we are clear for takeoff, 54321"

funnily enough it hasn't happened since I became visibly trans

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

ja that can happen/s here too

presumably your bones comprehend all the non-weather reasons that .au is such a popular za expat destination

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

those particular south africans apparently made perth in particular a fucking delight of genteel racism in the late 90s

tho they didn't particularly change the nature of it

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@dgerard

Trying to turn it into Bogandesia.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

already there. it is difficult to explain just how racist Australia is, and impossible to explain it to Australians, who are convinced against all possible evidence that it is not

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i mean, i have a friend who is literally a UFO religion believer, but they're decent and politically good and trustworthy and present as normal-English, so

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

see occasionally you meet a UFO person and they’re normal and you only find out about their interest in UFOs because it’s the reason they want to get into radio or whatever and they want to see if you can recommend them a setup to communicate with satellites and other stuff in orbit. in effect, their UFO hobby is essentially a modified radio/birdwatching hobby that’s hopefully driving them to learn more about the world around them

but much more often you meet a UFO person and hear the absolute worst thing you’ve heard all month while looking for an escape route, without making it too obvious because you’re fairly certain they’re armed. they will later go on the internet and call you an NPC who refuses to wake up because you wouldn’t discuss lizard people with them.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

you only find out about their interest in UFOs because it’s the reason they want to get into radio or whatever and they want to see if you can recommend them a setup to communicate with satellites and other stuff in orbit

you know, I don't know if I've actually run into this kind of conversation. I don't think I have. or if I almost did, I fairly likely applied a conversation logic-shortcircuit way before it got there (because of ambient red flag count). but fuck me, if I don't know exactly the kind of person you're referring to.... :|

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 4 months ago

also

without making it too obvious because you’re fairly certain they’re armed. they will later go on the internet and call you an NPC who refuses to wake up

ZA has many problems (and oh christ could I wax lyrical), but thank fuck I do not live in fucking eaglecountry

it's a whole fucked-up 'ole dynamic when you need to "watch your back" in the most very literal sense because you didn't eat some bozo's shit :|