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I figure shit's going to get worser whether we end up with 99% Hitler Blue or 99% Hitler Red. So, anyone have any ideas on what to do next?

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[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's high time to stop thinking that any sort of change can be enacted in the terms of what is "officially" called "politics". Who is sitting in the white House is irrelevant to whatever we need to do

[–] Pavlichenko_Fan_Club@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I've wholeheartedly become one of those 'boycott the elections!' people recently. Obviously getting progressives elected isn't the goal--I would hope this is a starting point most would agree with here--, but neither is it good strategy to say we'll win reforms by creating powerful working-class organizations. I'll go even further and say that the shame-faced agnosticism of saying that election are wholly irrelevant misses the point in that the farcical nature of Bourgeois democracy behooves us to put this fact forward as primary. We don't ignore elections because everybody knows politics is a shame, a rich mans game, and so on, as although this may be true we understand our 'democracy' itself is a tool of class oppression by the Bourgeoisie. Therefore, we dont posit more working-class representation in government, we posit the dictatorship of the proletariate instead. We understand that all consessions, and reforms won through popular struggle are meant to bury the contradiction driving class-struggle, to quash popular discontent by channeling it through safe, legal avenues. The state legalized unions because the alternative was killing your boss. The state became 'democratic' because the alternative was overthrowing your government.

[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

I'm a gradualist, but, yeah, you guys should be stocking up on rifles and ammo if you intend to have your actions align with your speech.