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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This logical fallacy is called "Denying the Correlative". It's basically the opposite of a False Dilemma. In this electoral system, there are two statistically relevant choices: supporting Biden OR supporting Trump. Right-wing voters are consistent, making voting third-party or withholding one's vote mathematically equivalent to supporting Trump.

It sucks and it's bullshit but disliking reality does not make it any less true.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You are just plain old dead wrong, and the one pushing a fallacy (i.e.fakse dichotomy) is you. The THIRD and most logical and reasonable choice is for Biden to step aside and let a viable candidate represent the Democrats.

I cant help but notice that you and the other guy keep deliberately avoiding that one.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It’s not your choice. God you really are one of the dumbest here

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

No its definitely you blue MAGAt liberals that are the dumbest here, but keep siding with the old guard who keep losing

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't have the power to control someone else's actions, just my own. If you do have the ability, you certainly could help quite a bit. However, for myself and any other human that I've interacted with in my life, the choice is binary in this. It's a FPTP system and the far-right winning would be unlikely to lead to anything but increased levels of suffering.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And they definitely have an astronomically higher chance of winning with Biden at the top of the ticket. I notice you ignored that part entirely.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago

I notice you ignored that part entirely.

Erm what?...

I don't recall you mentioning that, apologies if I missed it. My main point has been that, unless things change, there are literally two choices under the electoral system that is available.

Can we try to pressure the DNC? Yes. Is replacing Biden on the ballot or an option that most voters can choose? No. Political parties in the US are considered private entities with no obligation to pay attention to voters.