this post was submitted on 21 Jun 2024
835 points (99.1% liked)

Technology

59204 readers
3157 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 135 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

"The group used “sophisticated computer scripts” and software to scour piracy services"

They used the basic tools that most(?) pirates use today like sonarr and radar??

I don't mind people pirating...i do mind people pirating and profiting from redistribution.

[–] yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Guessing they used Sonarr, Radarr, qBittorrent, maybe an NZB client....

Would you look at that, I'm sophisticated now.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 4 months ago

Maybe even Jellyseerr

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

redistribution = service?

Why would they work for free?

Not gonna pretend like this aint illegal but i don't cry over some IP owners losing money... EVER, fuck 'em

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 49 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Oh I don't care that the IP owner don't get money.

IDK, I just don't like the ethics of pirating media for profit, the entire idea is that it should be accessible to everyone, not just those with money. Cover your operational cost? Sure....Making millions in subscriptions? That is an asshole move IMO. If you're paying, you might as well pay the people who are making the media in the first place instead of some rando that had nothing to do with it.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 8 points 4 months ago

All fair points.

I think the issue is that IP owners are mega corps, ie people who made the content don't own it and can't provide it anyway.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This doesn't seem that different from paying for usenet. It's not like they're making DVDs of pirated movies and selling them on the street corner; they were basically just aggregating content and the service they were providing was making it easily searchable and accessible, not doing the actual pirating, from the sound of it, unless I'm misunderstanding the situation.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This doesn’t seem that different from paying for usenet.

i would think it would be a little different from usenet, considering that usenet would be a service that you pay for, and people who use that service would host content on it, so that other users can download that content. Which effectively removes the immediate liability that you would have in this case, where you are explicitly hosting a pirated streaming service, and then charging for it, for the explicit purpose of streaming said pirated content.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I suppose I should clarify - that was in response to the objection to paying for pirated content; it's different from the service provider's point of view, but from the end user's point of view, they're paying for pirated content either way.

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't have an issue paying ISPs to access pirated content either, that's the same as paying for Usenet access IMO. You're paying for network access for a lot of different things, pirated content just happens to be part of it. Paying a streaming service specifically for pirated content is vastly different from paying for general network access, even from an end user perspective.

yeah, from an end user perspective, it's the same.

But i was referring mostly to the legal technicalities there, where one would be significantly more spicy than the other.

Nice root instance btw, getting jumpscared by pawb.social is a rather funny timeline to live in.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Yes. Charging money for sharing content like that makes them little better than grifters