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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 72 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I’m struck by the fact that as a trans woman I look more cis than some women I know who’ve given birth. I’m actually worried about a cis friend of mine if we ever get bathroom laws here.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I've been trying to explain to my less enlightened family for years that requiring a trans man to use the women's bathroom only makes it easier for men to just walk in since having a beard and a dad bod no longer means you have to use the men's room.

These laws just don't make any sense and can only make whatever they are afraid of (men hearing their wives and daughters tinkle, apparently) worse.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's what has always stumped me. They do realize that trans men look like... men. Right? Like, they want some dude to just stroll into the women's bathroom? Like, legally want that dude to be forced to stroll into that women's bathroom?!?

The dude doesn't want to be in there. Women don't want the dude to be in there. Why do these politicians want the dude to be in there?!

[–] interrobang@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

and the trans person gets assaulted in the bathroom they are 'supposed' to use! Its just an excuse to banish us from public, there is no right answer.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Exactly. It’s like telling black people to use their water fountain. But there isn’t a fucking water fountain for them.

Regression of society sucks to watch in real time.

Edit: hope this isn’t an offensive correlation. 💀

[–] dumples@midwest.social 24 points 5 months ago

Based on that numbers it will be mostly cis woman who get harassed. There have been plenty of cases of it already. There was a few big ones in my state when people complaining that their daughters lost in sport

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Conservatism has only ever been about the most superficial of ideals.

Many of them would have no issue at all with extending laws about gender to laws about appearance and I'm not even kidding. We have plenty of examples from right-wing governments and social trends of the past absolutely leaning into ideas like phrenology or inherent, essential qualities that go alongside things like hair and eye color.

You should be concerned for your friend, everyone should be concerned that if allowed to mature, conservatism in the US would throw us right back into a time when people can face legal penalties for what they choose to wear, for how they express themselves, for the shape of their face and a thousand other ways they would want to police the world around them so it continues to look the way they want it to look. And too bad if you don't look like someone who should live in that world.