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[–] FredFig@awful.systems 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

This is quite minor, but it's very funny seeing the intern would-be sneerers still on rbuttcoin fall for the AI grift, to the point that its part of their modscript copypasta

Or in the pinned mod comment:

AI does have some utility and does certain things better than any other technology, such as:

  • The ability to summarize in human readable form, large amounts of information.
  • The ability to generate unique images in a very short period of time, given a verbose description

tfw you're anti-crypto, but only because its a bad investing opportunity.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

i came here from r/buttcoin and lmao

i mean technically it passes the very low bar of having a single non-criminal use case (mass manufacturing spam and other drivel)

some are not falling for it at least

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Gross, that whole thread is gross. A lot of promptfans in that thread seemingly experiencing pushback for the first time and they are baffled!

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

in that thread: marketing dude who uses chatgpt, never had issues with incorrect results. i mean how would he even catch this, his entire field is uncut bullshit

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What does "incorrect" even mean in a marketing context???

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago

something you can get sued for

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

While it's always correct to laugh at crypto advocates, /r/buttcoin just isn't very edifying lately. There's no depth to the criticism. It comes across as the "anti" version of wall street bets for people who lost their shirts, especially since The Appening, when a lot of subject matter experts left town.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ours is much better, it has the true buttcoin scorn without bothsidesing

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 11 points 5 months ago

accept no substitutes!

[–] Eiim@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that comment is unreasonable. LLMs can summarize large-ish amounts of information (as long as it fits in the context window) in a human-readable form, and while it's still prone to getting things wrong and I'd rather a human do it all day, it does do it "better than any other technology" that I know of. We can argue about "unique" but strictly speaking it will almost certainly generate an image that didn't exist before. I'd also rather a human make the image for quality's sake, but being fast, cheap, and copyright-free is a useful enough combo in certain situations.

It doesn't really bring up the main issues with AI, but I think that's acceptable in the context, which is "How is AI different from crypto in the context of r/Buttcoin", and in that context "crypto is completely useless" and "AI has minimal uses which may or may not be worthwhile depending on how you evaluate the benefits and negatives" are meaningfully different.

[–] FredFig@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's "reasonable" in context, I just thought it's funny that rbuttcoin would be headpatting AI at all, since its basically the exact same people pushing AI as the people pushing crypto with the exact same motives.