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[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m a said this before… You can hate both.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, you can hate both, but unless you want Trump policies here, you have to vote Biden.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 43 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

More to the point, in a FPTP + EC, a failure to vote for the candidate you hate least in certain states gives the candidate you hate more a better chance of winning the presidency.

While the propagandists would have us believe otherwise, this is not "supporting 'genocide'." It's just math.

Do you live in Illinois? Idaho? Vote for whoever you want. Illinois is going to send its electors for Biden, and Idaho is going to send its electors for Trump, and your vote is not going to change that. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona? Check yourself before you wreck fucking everything.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 months ago

And even if you live in Idaho, stop telling people on the internet to abstain!!!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yup! But not knowing the state someone is posting from, way easier to go "Vote Biden!"

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 19 points 3 months ago

They're probably posting from Russia.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Local and state elections also matter. Watching Trump deal with a Dem Congress might even be amusing. But yeah, vote Biden because Trump already fucked up the Supreme Court enough.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not a chance. If Trump wins, it’ll be by Democratic abstentions. With 33 Senate seats on the ballot, if he wins, Republicans will have control of Congress too.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Trump will rule by executive order and the supreme court will ok it in that scenario.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't bet on sure states anymore. We saw in 2016 how inaccurate polls were because Trump supporters just lie and hide.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 3 months ago

because Trump supporters just lie and hide.

It's amazing how I live in a very red county and yet all over these dating sites all I see are "moderate" or "centrist" or "other" I almost NEVER see someone openly admit they're a "conservative."

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Illinois hasn't voted R since 1988.