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[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I remember history different. I remember Gore losing the debates because he listened to his advisors. That was cringey.

But you think it's the voters who blew it every time. You even think minority voters in hardcore Red states blew it, which is quite absurd.

Maybe the candidates were shit? Maybe their policy positions sucked? Hmm. That might be relevant too.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

Democrats always try to straddle the fence of keeping the status qou and slowly advancing civil rights and worker protection, all the while always protecting corporate interest.

Republicans give ZERO shits about civil rights or worker rights and are balls deep in corporate money, but they keep selling themselves by pushing culture wars and pretending to be "for the people" because "tax cuts"

The average voter is dumb as shit and swallows the Republican bullshit readily because it absolves them of any blame. It's always someone else's fault, the gays, the blacks the immigrants... There is always someone to blame.

So yea... We have two parties, one center right and one batshit crazy right.

Idiots seem to not understand that if you want politics to move more left you have to defeat the far right nut jobs, you aren't going to go left by refusing to vote democrat because they are not left enough for you. You need to put pressure on the Republicans so they have to move back towards the center, then Democrats will be forced to move more left.

But this is already too much text and nuance for the average voter so they'll keep screaming about both sides and "I'd like to have a beer with x..."

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Literally more people voted for Gore than Bush. Not sure what you expect the voters to do when they vote and the court just chooses the other guy

Maybe their positions were ok and the massive proven amounts of dark money had an effect? Maybe the obvious and admitted attempt at interference was successful, as they’ve been crowing for years? Nah…must be bad messaging from the dems

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

An attack on the capitol in 2000 would have been legitimate and justified defense of the nation after watching a Repub SCOTUS decide an election for the Repubs.