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Why is Linux so frustrating for some people? (lemmy.ml)
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Don't get me wrong. I love Linux and FOSS. I have been using and installing distros on my own since I was 12. Now that I'm working in tech-related positions, after the Reddit migration happened, etc. I recovered my interest in all the Linux environment. I use Ubuntu as my main operating system in my Desktop, but I always end up feeling very limited. There's always software I can't use properly (and not just Windows stuff), some stuff badly configured with weird error messages... last time I was not able to even use the apt command. Sometimes I lack time and energy for troubleshooting and sometimes I just fail at it.

I usually end up in need of redoing a fresh install until it breaks up again. Maybe Linux is not good for beginners working full time? Maybe we should do something like that Cisco course that teaches you the basic commands?

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[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What about Ubuntu? Pop OS?

Most of the distros I've tried "just work". It connects to my wifi, I can go on websites, I can read my email. What are you trying to do that isn't working?

[–] Bandicoot_Academic@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are pretty lucky if you haven't experienced any issues. For most people thogh spots are gonna be:

  1. Gaming. While a lot of games work perfectly a lot also don't work (mainly if they have a ~~kernel level anticheat~~ rootkit)

  2. Nvidia. Do i have to say any more?

  3. Wifi. Often wifi cards just don't work or work very poorly.

  4. Laptop specific features. Stuff like a MUX switch, ambient light sensors and fingerprint scanners very often have no drivers for linux.

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[–] moon_matter@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need the equivalent of what Android is for phones, but for the desktop. A preinstalled, very opinionated OS that completely eliminates issues 2-4 and is supported by a major corp. We need someone like Valve to take things a tiny step beyond some combination of a Chrome book and the Steam Deck.

[–] techviator@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dell had a Linux line some years ago where everything worked out of the box, never got the popularity needed to keep it alive.

System76 has Pop!_OS so that they can provide great out of the box experience with their computers, but they are not as big as other vendors.

A good way to really get a product like that to mass market is to make it available in general stores (Walmart, Best Buy, Etc.), the problem is that most of those customers will not understand why their system is so different and they cannot install that MS Office 2003 they have always used, or that Norton Antivirus that their cousin's son recommended to them 10 years ago that was working fine on their old computer.

And then you have the younger generations that use every other device but a computer. They'd rather do all their school and college work on their phones and tablets rather than open a laptop, if they even know how to use a computer (you'd be surprised how many don't even know how to use a computer).

[–] moon_matter@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I hate myself for saying this, but the only way forward is to treat PCs like a highly moddable console. They need to come with some "exclusive" software that only makes its way to other platforms at a later date. They also need to be built for a specific purpose (e.g. media centre, gaming) with the expectation that most people won't want to leave the comfort zone.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's been more than a couple years since Ive tried using Linux (back when I used it as my primary os).

My experience have been mostly with ubuntu-based OSes like Mint. First laptop I installed Linux on, the audio didn't just work. It didn't work at all for a while, despite trying many fixes. Otherwise it actually did work decently well. On my next laptop, it would just one day no longer boot or login for some reason or another and I'd just have to do a clean install because I didn't know how to fix it. That happened maybe every other month? On both laptops, the two-finger scroll behavior had settings to change how it behaved in the default installed software, but on Linux it was always finicky getting it to work the way I wanted.

Also installing things is a lot more annoying for stuff that require command line vs just clicking it and telling it to install.