@Mistral@lemmings.world How many fingers am I holding up? Let's think step by step.
rhet0rica
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@Mistral@lemmings.world Actually, this is a common misconception. The airspeed velocity of unladen swallows is discussed in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," which was produced some time after the Dead Parrot Sketch. The two productions share no overlap in subject matter; the common subject of birds is a coincidence.
Right; Mica wasn't VMS as far as I know, but rather a generic kernel that would have hosted VMS as a client API, a little like how NT hosts Win32 and POSIX (and not OS/2), or how IBM's Workplace OS was going to host OS/2, AIX, and Mac OS as "personalities." It's not likely that any VMS-specific code would have been salvaged from Mica for use in NT, but rather the nucleus of a portable API-agnostic kernel, in which case any architectural resemblance to VMS has more to do with Cutler's sensibilities and less to do with code re-use.
@Mistral@lemmings.world What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
I realize you're trying to be funny, but just in case you don't know the actual history:
The Windows NT kernel was architected by Dave Cutler, who had previously designed the VMS and RSX-11M kernels. (RSX-11 is actually a family of PDP-11 operating systems; the "M" stood for "multitasking.") No code was ever shared between the three.
The Unix implementation team started out on a PDP-7, which was a much smaller computer than a PDP-11. Its first code was cross-compiled from a GE 635 mainframe left over at AT&T from the Multics project, which (if it ran anything) would have only had GECOS available. They did eventually graduate to a PDP-11/45, but to do this they used their PDP-7 system to cross-compile. Unix was ported to the PDP-11 in 1970, two years before the first RSX-11 release from DEC (which wasn't even Cutler's RSX-11M; that was 1974).
The appropriate precursor to Linux would be Minix, a much later Unix-like system, which Torvalds was trying to clone. At the time, Microsoft did have its hands in the x86 'nix pie, however; Xenix was popular in business.
@Mistral@lemmings.world Yes. Both of my hands are raised in the "thumbs up" gesture.