julietOscarEcho

joined 1 year ago
[–] julietOscarEcho 2 points 1 year ago

Really interesting to see PR as a key motivator for you and one other commenter below. The AV referendum defeat was probably the most disappointing democratic event of my life, even worse than brexit or tory GE wins. I also see the system as the root of the problem.

[–] julietOscarEcho 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't agree that revolution is the only possibility for change. The Corbyn platform included lords reform and they were seriously contending a GE. Totally agree with your diagnosis of the problem with Westminster though.

[–] julietOscarEcho 4 points 1 year ago

Agree, I didn't have high expectations for Starmer and he's falling short of them. Just wish we'd been given a chance to see a Corbyn government.

[–] julietOscarEcho 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thanks for your 2c. I have scottish family who would agree with all of that. It's an interesting one for me, because progressive change in the intact UK and a prosperous progressive independent Scotland are both just hypotheticals, and I've seen either side call the other naive for believing them respectively.

For me what keeps me pro-union is that I believe the outcome for rUK matters too, despite living in Scotland and planning to try to stay post indy. If the chance of progressive change in the UK seems remote now it would be surely vanishing without Scotland.

I note your answer didn't acknowledge the existence of rightwing nationalism in Scotland or any impact it might have. I hope (but doubt) it indeed doesn't need mentioning.

 

Any Scottish users on board yet? I'm curious to discuss Scottish issues but maybe setting out my stall on a UK instance and community already poisons the conversation!

Anyway my question is whether the link between left leaning and progressive politics and Scottish independence can persist. My YES voting friends and relatives see indy as a way to see meaningful policy change because Westminster has failed to deliver progressive governments (not clear exactly how they square away the Corbyn near miss but assume here they view Blair/Starmer as "red tory"). But elsewhere in the west nationalism is closely tied to right wing economics and regressive social policy. With the rise of the Alba party are we seeing cracks in this leftist perception of indy or will it die down?