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[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 11 months ago

what an exhausting meme.

comrades who have addressed it point by point: I admire your patience and generosity

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

all color categories are made up

and the only ones whose corresponding wavelength ranges are directly detected by our eyes are ~red, ~green, and ~blue

take it from someone who this year failed a color vision test so spectacularly that the doctor asked him 'so do you just see in black and white?': let people like things

even fake as fuck shades of color that we KNOW THEY'RE JUST MAKING UP to mess with us

wait what

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The reason it doesn't seem like I was arguing against your comment is that indeed, I wasn't trying to refute your comment. Reconsider your defensiveness. And bear in mind that not all critiques aim to establish a kind of propositional negation of what they address.

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Cures for otherwise blinding conditions do exist (e.g., cataract removal, some gene therapies for retinal diseases) and they're good. I have a condition that will eventually render me blind and I would seek to be cured if a cure existed for it.

But pursuing/promoting cures for disabilities, including blindness, is not without problems. See, in the US for example, the politics of the National Federation of the Blind vs. the Foundation for Fighting Blindness. Cures also raise class issues and threaten to further marginalize people who won't or can't be cured, for whatever reason. In particular, imagining a world in which 'everyone' is cured is dangerous and even inherently harmful ideology.

Also, while I have some reservations about the rhetoric and what I think it likely really means, there are blind people out there who will tell you they don't want to be cured because it's part of who they are and they're getting along just fine. Such people do exist. A similar sentiment exists for some within the deaf community as well.

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Gene therapies for other genetic conditions often do, but then those aren't neurodevelopmental.

I'm kinda fascinated by the question of how something like this would affect me. Like the way a psychedelic experience can teach us lessons we still retain (and want to hold onto), like the way formative experiences leave deep traces in us even when when we grow and change, what features of autism would always 'stay with me' on some level? If things changed perceptually for me, what old habits of mind would I retain? What would I miss most? What would I not miss?

In a lot of ways I think temporary windows into different neurotypes would be much more interesting than purported 'cures'. People don't usually want to undo their own personalities, including mental dimensions like neurotypes. But who wouldn't want to play with that a bit, if they knew it were safe?

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I guess I still don't really see what your initial comment here is supposed to contribute in response to OP, which isn't really about being for or against child soldiers, or whether some child soldiers are good and others are bad.

OP isn't really even about child soldiers per se. It's about media narratives associated with images of children handling weapons in the contexts of two conflicts, one of the differences between which being that in only one case does the commentary on the image venture as to suggest that the child pictured has been conscripted as a soldier. It's also about, perhaps more crucially, how allegations of child soldierdom are being used to justify killing children generally, across a whole, captive, civilian population, and that, again, in only one of those two contexts.

(My question was searching for an interpretation that connects GGP back to either of those, which are what the OP is about.)

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago

This kind of thing is really interesting for what it might teach us about autism and the human brain more generally, but when it comes to the practical applications I just don't see a future where it doesn't present a ton of problems. Even when you make it 'voluntary', eugenics is dangerous and closely allied with exterminationist sentiment, thinking, and practice.

And it seriously risks, at a minimum, deeply undermining struggles to accommodate rather than erase disabilities. Admittedly this is a step beyond the technical capability, but if a society develops an expectation that some major human variation (be that autism, deafness, blindness, or whatever) be cured rather than accommodated wherever it is a 'problem', where does that leave people (or parents) who refuse the cure for themselves (or for their children)? I can easily imagine arguments like 'if you don't want problems, just administer the cure! you're being selfish', 'this creates an unnecessary burden', etc.

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Also, to be clear, there's no accepted notion of 'autism for mice' (or any other non-human animal), even if describing animals as autistic can sometimes be arguably useful. So 'works in mice' is a phrase that does a lot of work here.

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It might do something in humans, but the idea that autism is reducible to genes— and a single gene, at that— strikes me as laughable on its face.

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Meaning

Child soldiers are children as well as soldiers

?

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is similar to Marx's critique of freedom under liberalism as merely 'formal'. The problem is the gap between that can exist between a nominal right and practical exercise of that right.

This kind of problem is common with rights-based approaches to justice and can be witnessed with human rights broadly. Its identification isn't unique to Marxism, either; liberals sometimes get at it with the phrase 'equality of opportunity', for example. To say that opportunities can be unequal (and that this is a problem) is to admit that justice requires the guarantee of more than just formal rights. I'd say this a problem that has shaped liberal 'privilege' discourse as well: privilege is just such a kind of gap that allows (or constitutes?) the persistence of injustice in the face of nominal/formal/legal equality.

Like in other cases, I'd say that the four fundamental software freedoms get at something genuinely important, and that it's better to have them, even just formally, than not. But like with other freedoms and rights, it's easy to conceive of them too 'thinly'. They need to be fleshed out with a more general awareness of power relations and of the practicality of their own exercise.

To some extent, that awareness of software freedom as situated within power relations is actually already present in free software discourses, which talk often of things like subordination, domination, subjugation, etc., from the start. Unsurprisingly, that dimension is largely absent from the 'open-source' perspective.

[–] doccitrus@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago

This interview feels like it ends abruptly halfway through!

 

Mokhiber explains that the Oslo Accords, poisoned from the start by US posing as a neutral 'mediator' in them, undermined the decolonial approach to the Palestine question not only in public discourse but within the UN. He distinguishes the UN's failure in Palestine to its support of a decolonial movement in the effort to end apartheid in South Africa. A lifelong (31 years at the UN) specialist in international human rights law, he casually refers at one point to double standards at the ICC and says he has largely given up hope in official institutions, including the UN in many capacities (he notes the value of aid work organized by the UN).

To many, the contents of this interview (and of Mokhiber's letter) are not new. But it covers its subjects well, and Mokhiber's voice here is one that might be credible to some who are otherwise not inclined to hear anything. Worth a watch, imo.

 

The Bibi quote in this context is especially helpful:

Ethiopian immigrants weren’t allowed to enter Israel if they didn’t take a shot that, unbeknownst to them, would affect their birthrate in the country (a 50% decline) for years to come.

[...]

Many rabbis and prominent figures within Israel have also justified the sterilization by questioning the Jewishness of Ethiopian Jews, in which long-reigning Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu chimed in by saying Black Jews in Israel “‘threaten our existence as a Jewish and democratic state.'”

 

[C]ontentiously, his letter calls for the effective end to the state of Israel.

“We must support the establishment of a single, democratic secular state in all of historic Palestine, with equal rights for Christians, Muslims, and Jews,” he wrote, adding: “and, therefore, the dismantling of the deeply racist, settler-colonial project and an end to apartheid across the land.”

[...]

Anne Bayefsky, who directs Touro College’s Institute on Human Rights and the Holocaust in New York, accused Mokhiber on social media of “overt antisemitism”. She said he had used a UN letterhead to call for “wiping Israel off the map”.

 

I found this pretty helpful in consolidating my basic familiarity with major events following 1948 into a timeline in my head. Might be helpful for others as well!

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Ounadikom (lemmygrad.ml)
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I call out to you, my people

I firmly clasp your hands,

I kiss the earth beneath your feet

and declare: I sacrifice myself for you.

I give you the light of my eyes as a gift.

I give you the warmth of my heart.

The tragedy I live

is my share of your own.

I call upon you,

I firmly clasp your hands.

In my land I never was disgraced,

never lowered myself.

I always challenged my oppressors,

orphaned, naked and with bare feet.

I felt my blood in my own hands,

never lowered my flag.

I always protected the grass

on my ancestors' graves.

I call out to you, my people,

I firmly clasp your hands.

— Tawfiq Zayyad, 1966 (as translated by Mohammed Sawaie in The Tent Generations: Palestinian Poems)

This poem was also the basis of a famous Palestinian nationalist song: https://youtu.be/ec2yB6nMGxM

 

Right now, at least 3 publishers are giving away ebooks and promoting reading lists on the topic:

If you know of any others, please share

 

I recently finished reading Close to the Machine by Ellen Ullman, which so compellingly describes lives and situations in which entanglement with computers has a kind of warping, potentially even dehumanizing effect on people and processes so entangled.

My understanding is that prior to its institutionalization in Soviet universities, the official state criticism of cybernetics sort of resembled this. Anyone know of any good anti-cybernetics essays or books from the USSR that are easy to get?

 

I'm currently working through Orlando Patterson's Slavery and Social Death. Wikipedia says

Orlando Patterson's book Slavery and Social Death, first published in 1982, forms a theoretical point of departure for almost all strands of Afro-pessimism.

but also notes that according to Patterson, his concept/definition of social death doesn't apply to contemporary black life in the USA.

What should I read next to understand the Afropessimist arguments that Patterson's conception of social death is too narrow, etc.?

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