butterypowered

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[–] butterypowered 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I know what you mean. Big decisions being made by 50%+1 votes are definitely messy. But the alternative is that a minority wins. e.g. 60/40 or whatever. That’s even worse.

Maybe there should be a series of referendums and you need a majority 3 times in a row? But those might all be 50%+1 again.

Like it or not, people can even be found guilty of murder on the basis of a single person deciding one way or another.

Scotland isn’t just a region, it is still a country in its own right. Would we have been okay with the EU refusing us a Brexit referendum, or telling us we can only have one every X years? Of course not.

And, to be honest, people get tired of voting. If anything, frequent independence referendums would only put people off.

To be honest it’s all hypothetical. The UK government will never allow another independence referendum. And nor will Labour. Cameron only allowed one because he thought there would be no chance of a Yes vote. There is no getting out, no matter what percentage of the Scottish population want one.

[–] butterypowered 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I had selected those quotes because they highlight what a shit situation we’re in. I get the logic; it’s just depressing that the logic is sound.

However, it remains to be seen how Labour will react to Just Stop Oil. I think they’ll be less blunt but will pretty much treat them the same way. Hopefully I’m wrong.

[–] butterypowered 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mr Vince, a major Labour donor, said further action was "pointless" because the government had shown it would drill for oil "come what may".

God that’s depressing.

Further disruption, he added, would help "feed the Tories' culture-war narrative".

Fair point but still depressing.

Instead, he said, he would divert funding to the anti-Conservative vote.

So no longer specific to halting oil production at all then. Sigh.

[–] butterypowered 2 points 1 year ago

We are in a union between two countries. That’s the key difference.

e.g. our law systems are separate and pre-date the Union itself.

[–] butterypowered 2 points 1 year ago

Not that I particularly want to open this can of worms here, but I’m pretty sure that Scotland has more resources than a lot of lim independent European countries. Colossal amounts of renewables potential, oil (just don’t burn it), whisky, tourism, etc.

I agree about there being enough to go round. Unfortunately I don’t think the Conservatives or Labour are interested in that model, and FPTP elections are never going away at Westminster.

[–] butterypowered 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Although I’m uneasy with blocking any democratic right, I do see your point.

However, the voters have kept the SNP in power for 16 years now - there is clearly is still a strong interest in independence. There won’t be many unionist voting SNP for their other policies!

I think Northern Ireland have the right to a referendum every 7 years. That seems reasonable to me.

I would maintain that stance even in an independent Scotland, if unionist groups can get into power with reforming a union with England on the manifesto.

[–] butterypowered 3 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I honestly think the SNP still want independence, and to have a referendum, but they have no official route to get one. Which is completely wrong, democratically speaking.

[–] butterypowered 3 points 1 year ago

That’s not to say there aren’t loads of Tories. Just that they almost all tactically voted for Labour to get the SNP out.

If only 80s or even 90s Britain could see Scottish politics now. They would wonder wtf is going on, with Tory/Labour tactical voting and coalitions.

[–] butterypowered 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah Usenet was crap for binary downloads long before the BitTorrent protocol was invented.

It’s just so under the radar that it continues to plod along.

[–] butterypowered 7 points 1 year ago

I want to play Arkanoid using it.

[–] butterypowered 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve come from many years of Java experience to the world of Node/JS.

You can learn JS without TS, but not TS without JS.

TS is just a tightened up JS really.

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