Yeah especially when you get down below 0.1
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It may be flawed, but apparently it works pretty well of that's the only one that stood out to me.
But that begs the question, how do you determine the first top 25 teams if there's no top 25 team to beat? 😋
Houston?
Lots of upsets means there is a lot of movement in my computer poll. Pitt 💩, A&M, Penn State, VT, Kansas State, and Iowa State plummet. Meanwhile Georgia is climbing the rankings, whether my computer likes it or not!
- Oregon
- Indiana
- Miami (FL)
- Notre Dame
- Ohio State
- SMU
- Texas
- Georgia
- Tennessee
- BYU
- Ole Miss
- Penn State
- LSU
- Alabama
- Boise State
- Pittsburgh
- Texas A&M
- Colorado
- Army
- Louisville
- Tulane
- Minnesota
- Clemson
- South Carolina
- Washington State
Full Rankings
| Rank | Team | Record | Rating | SOS |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Oregon | (9-0) | 1405 | 982 |
| 2 | Indiana | (9-0) | 1392 | 908 |
| 3 | Miami | (9-0) | 1357 | 949 |
| 4 | Notre Dame | (7-1) | 1353 | 1001 |
| 5 | Ohio State | (7-1) | 1352 | 1080 |
| 6 | SMU | (8-1) | 1343 | 954 |
| 7 | Texas | (7-1) | 1313 | 1043 |
| 8 | Georgia | (7-1) | 1305 | 994 |
| 9 | Tennessee | (7-1) | 1281 | 918 |
| 10 | BYU | (8-0) | 1279 | 937 |
| 11 | Ole Miss | (7-2) | 1271 | 972 |
| 12 | Penn State | (7-1) | 1264 | 1014 |
| 13 | LSU | (6-2) | 1235 | 1019 |
| 14 | Alabama | (6-2) | 1234 | 1151 |
| 15 | Boise State | (7-1) | 1233 | 973 |
| 16 | Pittsburgh | (7-1) | 1232 | 969 |
| 17 | Texas A&M | (7-2) | 1231 | 1030 |
| 18 | Colorado | (6-2) | 1226 | 965 |
| 19 | Army | (8-0) | 1226 | 754 |
| 20 | Louisville | (6-3) | 1224 | 1083 |
| 21 | Tulane | (7-2) | 1216 | 915 |
| 22 | Minnesota | (6-3) | 1212 | 960 |
| 23 | Clemson | (6-2) | 1197 | 1012 |
| 24 | South Carolina | (5-3) | 1194 | 1080 |
| 25 | Washington State | (7-1) | 1189 | 947 |
| 26 | Iowa State | (7-1) | 1185 | 984 |
| 27 | Kansas State | (7-2) | 1182 | 977 |
| 28 | Syracuse | (6-2) | 1182 | 968 |
| 29 | Iowa | (6-3) | 1181 | 1001 |
| 30 | Vanderbilt | (6-3) | 1179 | 966 |
| 31 | Louisiana | (7-1) | 1153 | 848 |
| 32 | Arizona State | (6-2) | 1145 | 940 |
| 33 | Virginia Tech | (5-4) | 1142 | 1055 |
| 34 | Texas Tech | (6-3) | 1133 | 1001 |
| 35 | Western Kentucky | (6-2) | 1130 | 857 |
| 36 | Missouri | (6-2) | 1121 | 949 |
| 37 | Baylor | (5-4) | 1120 | 969 |
| 38 | Cincinnati | (5-3) | 1115 | 1032 |
| 39 | Georgia Southern | (6-3) | 1103 | 944 |
| 40 | Washington | (5-4) | 1102 | 998 |
| 41 | UNLV | (6-2) | 1096 | 926 |
| 42 | Illinois | (6-3) | 1091 | 985 |
| 43 | Jacksonville State | (5-3) | 1090 | 846 |
| 44 | James Madison | (6-2) | 1089 | 853 |
| 45 | Michigan | (5-4) | 1084 | 1115 |
| 46 | North Carolina | (5-4) | 1084 | 965 |
| 47 | Memphis | (7-2) | 1075 | 835 |
| 48 | Florida | (4-4) | 1074 | 1046 |
| 49 | Sam Houston | (7-2) | 1072 | 875 |
| 50 | Arkansas | (5-4) | 1071 | 987 |
| 51 | Duke | (6-3) | 1065 | 980 |
| 52 | Miami (OH) | (4-4) | 1061 | 974 |
| 53 | Marshall | (5-3) | 1054 | 956 |
| 54 | Navy | (6-2) | 1053 | 858 |
| 55 | Houston | (4-5) | 1052 | 1039 |
| 56 | Wisconsin | (5-4) | 1051 | 966 |
| 57 | UConn | (6-3) | 1048 | 845 |
| 58 | Colorado State | (6-3) | 1047 | 848 |
| 59 | Georgia Tech | (5-4) | 1044 | 1000 |
| 60 | UCLA | (3-5) | 1043 | 1172 |
| 61 | TCU | (5-4) | 1040 | 961 |
| 62 | NC State | (5-4) | 1039 | 948 |
| 63 | Nebraska | (5-4) | 1031 | 981 |
| 64 | West Virginia | (4-4) | 1027 | 982 |
| 65 | Wake Forest | (4-4) | 1024 | 982 |
| 66 | Toledo | (6-3) | 1017 | 862 |
| 67 | Ohio | (5-3) | 1014 | 873 |
| 68 | Oklahoma | (5-4) | 1010 | 1055 |
| 69 | Old Dominion | (4-5) | 1007 | 982 |
| 70 | California | (4-4) | 1006 | 946 |
| 71 | USC | (4-5) | 1003 | 1070 |
| 72 | UCF | (4-5) | 1003 | 1024 |
| 73 | Western Michigan | (5-3) | 999 | 873 |
| 74 | North Texas | (5-3) | 991 | 878 |
| 75 | Boston College | (4-4) | 989 | 973 |
| 76 | Maryland | (4-4) | 988 | 995 |
| 77 | Michigan State | (4-5) | 985 | 1058 |
| 78 | Virginia | (4-4) | 972 | 969 |
| 79 | Liberty | (5-2) | 966 | 783 |
| 80 | Fresno State | (5-4) | 965 | 872 |
| 81 | UL Monroe | (5-3) | 963 | 883 |
| 82 | East Carolina | (4-4) | 958 | 890 |
| 83 | Bowling Green | (4-4) | 956 | 889 |
| 84 | Arkansas State | (5-3) | 956 | 850 |
| 85 | Texas State | (4-4) | 955 | 925 |
| 86 | App State | (4-4) | 950 | 935 |
| 87 | Northwestern | (4-5) | 949 | 999 |
| 88 | South Florida | (4-4) | 949 | 938 |
| 89 | Auburn | (3-6) | 947 | 977 |
| 90 | South Alabama | (4-5) | 941 | 932 |
| 91 | Buffalo | (5-4) | 941 | 874 |
| 92 | San José State | (5-3) | 929 | 813 |
| 93 | Kentucky | (3-6) | 926 | 1107 |
| 94 | Hawai'i | (4-5) | 925 | 883 |
| 95 | Utah | (4-4) | 920 | 903 |
| 96 | Rutgers | (4-4) | 914 | 937 |
| 97 | Kansas | (2-6) | 906 | 1004 |
| 98 | Rice | (3-6) | 894 | 980 |
| 99 | Oregon State | (4-4) | 894 | 919 |
| 100 | UTSA | (4-5) | 894 | 865 |
| 101 | San Diego State | (3-5) | 886 | 903 |
| 102 | Northern Illinois | (4-4) | 873 | 906 |
| 103 | Ball State | (3-5) | 872 | 912 |
| 104 | Eastern Michigan | (5-4) | 866 | 829 |
| 105 | Mississippi State | (2-7) | 865 | 1025 |
| 106 | Oklahoma State | (3-6) | 860 | 989 |
| 107 | Charlotte | (3-6) | 858 | 1018 |
| 108 | Coastal Carolina | (4-4) | 844 | 913 |
| 109 | Arizona | (3-6) | 825 | 994 |
| 110 | Temple | (2-6) | 819 | 960 |
| 111 | Florida International | (3-6) | 819 | 835 |
| 112 | Florida State | (1-8) | 812 | 1129 |
| 113 | Central Michigan | (3-5) | 810 | 876 |
| 114 | Louisiana Tech | (3-5) | 799 | 778 |
| 115 | UAB | (2-6) | 795 | 955 |
| 116 | Middle Tennessee | (3-6) | 784 | 910 |
| 117 | Utah State | (2-6) | 780 | 876 |
| 118 | New Mexico | (3-6) | 776 | 788 |
| 119 | Troy | (2-7) | 775 | 897 |
| 120 | Stanford | (2-7) | 773 | 1080 |
| 121 | Wyoming | (2-7) | 764 | 873 |
| 122 | Nevada | (3-7) | 762 | 959 |
| 123 | Tulsa | (3-6) | 759 | 860 |
| 124 | Purdue | (1-7) | 752 | 1022 |
| 125 | Georgia State | (2-6) | 739 | 973 |
| 126 | Florida Atlantic | (2-6) | 732 | 914 |
| 127 | Akron | (2-7) | 725 | 960 |
| 128 | Kennesaw State | (1-7) | 700 | 918 |
| 129 | Southern Miss | (1-7) | 697 | 941 |
| 130 | New Mexico State | (2-6) | 687 | 861 |
| 131 | Air Force | (1-7) | 674 | 914 |
| 132 | Massachusetts | (2-7) | 668 | 838 |
| 133 | UTEP | (1-8) | 660 | 894 |
| 134 | Kent State | (0-8) | 592 | 984 |
I use https://collegefootballdata.com/ which has an API, though I don't actually use it (yet). I just navigate to "Data" > "Games and Results" and export the 2024 FBS games to a csv file and use that.
It looks like one of the ballots double voted Notre Dame (9 & 10), Kansas State (19 & 21), and SMU (18 & 24), giving them an extra 16, 5, and 2 points respectively (if you remove the lower ranked).
Pretty much! It doesn't have to be a computer poll, it can be just your opinion, or a hybrid.
I do a computer poll, because a) I don't watch enough games to make an informed ranking and b) it's a fun exercise in coding and tuning the algorithm(s) for me.
You also don't need to share your ballot in the comments, but I also enjoy sharing and explaining what my algorithm is doing and if/where I disagree with it.
Here are the results from my computer poll. Oregon overtakes Indiana, and Notre Dame gets a big boost. Navy sadly falls out of the Top 25, but still on the bubble.
- Oregon
- Indiana
- Notre Dame
- Penn State
- Miami
- Texas
- Texas A&M
- Pittsburgh
- Ohio State
- BYU
- Clemson
- SMU
- Kansas State
- Iowa State
- Tennessee
- Georgia
- LSU
- Alabama
- Colorado
- Army
- Virginia Tech
- Ole Miss
- Boise State
- Washington State
- Tulane
:::spoiler Full Rankings
| Rank | Team | Record | Rating | SOS |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Oregon | (8-0) | 1376 | 963 |
| 2 | Indiana | (8-0) | 1363 | 883 |
| 3 | Notre Dame | (7-1) | 1352 | 1024 |
| 4 | Penn State | (7-0) | 1333 | 980 |
| 5 | Miami | (8-0) | 1323 | 936 |
| 6 | Texas | (7-1) | 1312 | 1018 |
| 7 | Texas A&M | (7-1) | 1311 | 1014 |
| 8 | Pittsburgh | (7-0) | 1301 | 897 |
| 9 | Ohio State | (6-1) | 1281 | 1053 |
| 10 | BYU | (8-0) | 1279 | 927 |
| 11 | Clemson | (6-1) | 1277 | 972 |
| 12 | SMU | (7-1) | 1274 | 939 |
| 13 | Kansas State | (7-1) | 1271 | 975 |
| 14 | Iowa State | (7-0) | 1269 | 923 |
| 15 | Tennessee | (6-1) | 1269 | 920 |
| 16 | Georgia | (6-1) | 1265 | 992 |
| 17 | LSU | (6-2) | 1234 | 1021 |
| 18 | Alabama | (6-2) | 1233 | 1130 |
| 19 | Colorado | (6-2) | 1226 | 974 |
| 20 | Army | (7-0) | 1223 | 760 |
| 21 | Virginia Tech | (5-3) | 1210 | 1040 |
| 22 | Ole Miss | (6-2) | 1205 | 933 |
| 23 | Boise State | (6-1) | 1204 | 963 |
| 24 | Washington State | (7-1) | 1189 | 931 |
| 25 | Tulane | (6-2) | 1177 | 894 |
| 26 | Memphis | (7-1) | 1167 | 823 |
| 27 | Illinois | (6-2) | 1154 | 980 |
| 28 | Minnesota | (5-3) | 1148 | 932 |
| 29 | Louisville | (5-3) | 1144 | 1047 |
| 30 | Vanderbilt | (5-3) | 1144 | 979 |
| 31 | Navy | (6-1) | 1142 | 861 |
| 32 | Arkansas | (5-3) | 1135 | 952 |
| 33 | Western Kentucky | (5-2) | 1122 | 871 |
| 34 | Missouri | (6-2) | 1121 | 960 |
| 35 | Wisconsin | (5-3) | 1118 | 954 |
| 36 | Cincinnati | (5-3) | 1115 | 1006 |
| 37 | Iowa | (5-3) | 1113 | 970 |
| 38 | Michigan | (5-3) | 1112 | 1093 |
| 39 | Florida | (4-3) | 1110 | 997 |
| 40 | Nebraska | (5-3) | 1110 | 982 |
| 41 | South Carolina | (4-3) | 1110 | 1064 |
| 42 | Syracuse | (5-2) | 1110 | 952 |
| 43 | Arizona State | (5-2) | 1108 | 926 |
| 44 | Louisiana | (6-1) | 1108 | 829 |
| 45 | TCU | (5-3) | 1100 | 909 |
| 46 | Duke | (6-2) | 1099 | 908 |
| 47 | UNLV | (6-2) | 1098 | 914 |
| 48 | Old Dominion | (4-4) | 1091 | 997 |
| 49 | James Madison | (6-2) | 1090 | 863 |
| 50 | Baylor | (4-4) | 1061 | 964 |
| 51 | Miami (OH) | (4-4) | 1061 | 976 |
| 52 | Georgia Southern | (5-3) | 1057 | 942 |
| 53 | Washington | (4-4) | 1056 | 988 |
| 54 | Sam Houston | (6-2) | 1055 | 867 |
| 55 | USC | (4-4) | 1053 | 1078 |
| 56 | Fresno State | (5-3) | 1051 | 893 |
| 57 | Texas Tech | (5-3) | 1048 | 982 |
| 58 | Georgia Tech | (5-4) | 1042 | 996 |
| 59 | UConn | (5-3) | 1035 | 852 |
| 60 | Liberty | (5-1) | 1032 | 737 |
| 61 | North Carolina | (4-4) | 1032 | 993 |
| 62 | West Virginia | (4-4) | 1027 | 1033 |
| 63 | Jacksonville State | (4-3) | 1024 | 837 |
| 64 | Wake Forest | (4-4) | 1024 | 976 |
| 65 | UL Monroe | (5-2) | 1022 | 842 |
| 66 | Ohio | (5-3) | 1014 | 871 |
| 67 | Michigan State | (4-4) | 1012 | 1006 |
| 68 | Colorado State | (5-3) | 1011 | 878 |
| 69 | California | (4-4) | 1006 | 958 |
| 70 | Texas State | (4-3) | 1001 | 872 |
| 71 | Western Michigan | (5-3) | 999 | 865 |
| 72 | Marshall | (4-3) | 996 | 938 |
| 73 | North Texas | (5-3) | 990 | 886 |
| 74 | Boston College | (4-4) | 989 | 980 |
| 75 | South Alabama | (4-4) | 989 | 897 |
| 76 | NC State | (4-4) | 988 | 972 |
| 77 | Maryland | (4-4) | 987 | 986 |
| 78 | Oklahoma | (4-4) | 982 | 1104 |
| 79 | Auburn | (3-5) | 980 | 963 |
| 80 | Toledo | (5-3) | 975 | 855 |
| 81 | Virginia | (4-4) | 972 | 973 |
| 82 | Houston | (3-5) | 964 | 1024 |
| 83 | UCLA | (2-5) | 962 | 1173 |
| 84 | Arkansas State | (5-3) | 957 | 874 |
| 85 | East Carolina | (4-4) | 957 | 890 |
| 86 | Bowling Green | (4-4) | 955 | 918 |
| 87 | UCF | (3-5) | 939 | 1069 |
| 88 | Kentucky | (3-5) | 935 | 1066 |
| 89 | San José State | (5-3) | 931 | 815 |
| 90 | Coastal Carolina | (4-3) | 930 | 929 |
| 91 | Utah | (4-4) | 920 | 900 |
| 92 | San Diego State | (3-4) | 918 | 832 |
| 93 | Rutgers | (4-4) | 913 | 960 |
| 94 | Eastern Michigan | (5-3) | 908 | 805 |
| 95 | Kansas | (2-6) | 906 | 1015 |
| 96 | Northwestern | (3-5) | 903 | 1025 |
| 97 | Buffalo | (4-4) | 898 | 893 |
| 98 | Oklahoma State | (3-5) | 897 | 991 |
| 99 | Charlotte | (3-5) | 895 | 994 |
| 100 | Oregon State | (4-4) | 893 | 926 |
| 101 | Arizona | (3-5) | 889 | 1004 |
| 102 | South Florida | (3-4) | 887 | 959 |
| 103 | Northern Illinois | (4-4) | 873 | 896 |
| 104 | Ball State | (3-5) | 871 | 904 |
| 105 | App State | (3-4) | 866 | 939 |
| 106 | Florida State | (1-7) | 862 | 1147 |
| 107 | New Mexico | (3-5) | 858 | 817 |
| 108 | Hawai'i | (3-5) | 842 | 866 |
| 109 | Tulsa | (3-5) | 834 | 862 |
| 110 | Stanford | (2-6) | 824 | 1093 |
| 111 | Temple | (2-6) | 818 | 985 |
| 112 | Louisiana Tech | (3-4) | 816 | 739 |
| 113 | Central Michigan | (3-5) | 810 | 885 |
| 114 | Mississippi State | (1-7) | 805 | 1077 |
| 115 | Nevada | (3-6) | 801 | 921 |
| 116 | Rice | (2-6) | 801 | 944 |
| 117 | UTSA | (3-5) | 799 | 850 |
| 118 | Purdue | (1-6) | 797 | 1058 |
| 119 | Florida Atlantic | (2-5) | 790 | 888 |
| 120 | Utah State | (2-6) | 780 | 879 |
| 121 | Akron | (2-6) | 767 | 948 |
| 122 | Florida International | (2-6) | 754 | 874 |
| 123 | Georgia State | (2-5) | 753 | 942 |
| 124 | New Mexico State | (2-5) | 752 | 891 |
| 125 | Massachusetts | (2-6) | 727 | 830 |
| 126 | UTEP | (1-7) | 724 | 912 |
| 127 | Middle Tennessee | (2-6) | 720 | 942 |
| 128 | UAB | (1-6) | 717 | 998 |
| 129 | Kennesaw State | (1-6) | 707 | 859 |
| 130 | Southern Miss | (1-7) | 697 | 928 |
| 131 | Troy | (1-7) | 691 | 931 |
| 132 | Wyoming | (1-7) | 684 | 885 |
| 133 | Air Force | (1-6) | 676 | 870 |
| 134 | Kent State | (0-8) | 592 | 1004 |
What Kennesaw State isn't a quality loss?? /s
It's okay, my poll has Alabama at #20, that should help balance things out a bit.
BTW, how did you format your full ranking? I can't figure out how to get mine to do that.
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Haha, yeah. That's really impressive that you did that well with single guesses. And a unicorn!