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Because the country, the political climate, literally the voters themselves are different today than they were in 2008. Hate is a disease - it grows and spreads, and it has been actively been cultivated and stoked to great effect ever since 2008. Unfortunately it's also a snowball running down a hill; if you don't stop it in time, it becomes unstoppable. And we missed the chance to stop it.

Because morality isn't a fucking popularity contest. I don't care if the Republicans are more popular when their platform and rhetoric is literally bigotry and hatred - full-blown Nazi shit. I'm not going to change my stance to a less moral position just because hate is trending.

Fuck off. This isn't about the DNC, this is about half of our fucking country being actual goddamn Nazis who froth at the mouth in excitement at the idea of victimizing women and minorities.

All this election has told me is that half of America is a literal shithole and people will always be more hateful than hopeful.

I don't even know how the fuck we come back from this.

Nobody is saying or thinking that sincerely, but the idea of not voting is like playing a game of chess against facism and refusing to use your Queen.

Nobody thinks voting is the whole solution or the whole problem, and nobody thinks that all of our problems hinge solely on the vote.

Voting doesn't solve everything and it doesn't replace hard work. But rationally speaking, in raw terms of time and effort input vs impact output, the low cost of entry of voting simply makes it one of the most impactful things you can do to affect change in America pound-for-pound in terms of effort, period. Change is hard and voting in most places takes less than a hour total. If you tell me you're trying to fight the good fight but you won't sacrifice one hour for something with the equivalent punching weight many many times greater than that effort, I will assume you are either an absolute idiot or you're just here in bad faith.

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And I think you're wrong. I think coddling people and indulging their juvenile entitlement desires to take their ball and go home does real world harm.

And coddling people from the harsh realities of their circumstances helps them even less. It's time to buck up, buttercup.

Your masturbatory revolutionary cosplay fantasies are still non-sequitur nonetheless.

Absolute bullshit. The people who are actually boots on ground doing the work are not the people making the claims. They know the hard work that is necessary and they know the benefit of voting even if the impact is incremental. The whole objection is that the people who talk about protest voting are the ones who only drop into the game at the finish line.

Exactly this. I think there are only two people you hear saying this: the overtly bad actors trying to suppress votes or the few extremely gullible idiots who stupidly get wrapped up in the lies of former. Thankfully I think it's usually clear before long which of the two you're talking to and only one of them is worth your time, and they're the rarer of them.

And this has any relevancy on voting.... How? Either you're going to the do the illegal things, which can be done on any day other than Nov 5 or you aren't going to the do the illegal things and you can still vote on Nov 5.

I don't give a shit about your personal revolutionary savior cosplaying fantasy; it is entirely non-sequitur to the topic of how voting is still the reasonable choice even for the revolutionarily-motivated.