You are right, I apologise for any insulting I did. I would prefer to debate civilly.
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Well done, did you learn about that decades old internet trivia yesterday or something?
I've not claimed to have any specialist knowledge, I've just researched the things you said and found them incorrect.
I'm not going to continue this thread with you though because you won't accept simple facts backed up by reputable sources. You think everybody is wrong if it doesn't fit with your pre decided narrative and you'll lash out to defend your fragile ego. Maybe you should talk to somebody.
Yeah I know what the difference is, I've just shown you that the OBR is referring to GDP when they walk about 'long term productivity growth' and nothing you have posted there contradicts that.
Seems to be a pattern here, you say something incorrect, I point it out, and you throw insults.
No it's GDP, you are simply wrong, confidently wrong I will grant you, but wrong.
Tell me genius, what's the measure for long term productivity growth the OBR uses here?
https://obr.uk/box/productivity-growth-long-term/
Oh right, look at that, it's GDP.
I mean, are you saying Bloomberg is also wrong?
Again, resorting to insults just shows up your immaturity and the fact that you've lost this debate.
Of course 'I have a clue', as far as I'm concerned I've demolished you and you've got nothing. That's why you've resorted to insults.
You're defending Brexit (badly), the very definition of defending failure.
Firstly, no need for insults.
I'm debating you in good faith, and I am smashing you to bits quite frankly and it's not even difficult, it's easy. Respond with better arguments and stop lying to yourself and you may be less upset.
Secondly, again that story is not what you said it is. It's allegations and it's not even EU related it's from back when she was German defence minister.
Now I already told you, I don't agree with corruption, I'd throw the book at her if there's any truth to it and it were down to me.
Any institution over time will have examples of corruption, from the top right down to local councils and the church raffle. It's a very human problem that occurs everywhere. The important thing is how you deal with it, and as far as I can see the first case they dealt with it very well (arrests and prosecutions) and in the second case that's clearly something for the German government to do something about.
Then I look at the UK, these idiots you voted to give all the power too, day after day there are stories and evidence about corruption on absolutely incredible scale, literally billions stolen, 200 billion at least wasted on this pile of shit....
Lol, the OBR said 4% of GDP per CAPITA OVER 15 YEARS
Mate, firstly.
Calm down.
Secondly, you're wrong, it is GDP not GDP per capita and it is at least 200bn.
These are facts, accept the facts.
Oh yeah, Turkish state media site that doesn't even load and talks about Breitbart's opinion, cracking source. Yeah, that I won't accept, give me a reputable source.
You are literally googling for any old shit to support your nonsensical position.
Sure, the OBR says 4% GDP loss per year.
3.1 trillion per year GDP, let's make it 5% just to make it easy
150 billion per year, x 2+ years, it's well over 200bn.
Bloomberg also agrees
So, you going to accept this fact then? or is it going to be fingers in ears?
Your Google fu sucks as does your critical thinking skills
What is this supposed to prove?
I'm saying, they have 2 of the largest companies in the world you've pointed to a company with 34 employees and 2 farms (1 in construction) In farm in Germany has 422 employees (source linkedin for both) so it's 10 times as big a company as the one you linked.
Yes, I did vote for it. Very happy with it. Guess it just sucks to be you
Haha, yeah I can tell, you won't accept reality, you can't accept you've made a huge mistake, you can't handle the truth!
Like I said, you're all remarkably gullible, I mean similar.
Yet again I go to read your link to see what you are talking about and yet again it's not what you say.
Okay so the NYT wants to read the texts, how does that show evidence of 'corruption'?
I mean, maybe we will see them and something will be uncovered, but as of right now you have nothing. If she's corrupt then I hope they throw the book at her. You've not provided any evidence for your claim though. Again.
undefined> Lol, you are like most remain voters I encounter, you like the idea of the EU, but don’t actually know anything about it. Of the 3 current federations, which one would you like the EU to become? Russia? China? USA?
Mate one of the first posts you made on this contained 2 factually incorrect statements and none of your links have backed up your claims.
If me pointing this out makes me a typical remain voter, well I suppose that shows just how much more informed we are than you typically Brexit blind types.
66b wasted plus 66b opportunity cost plus 66b to redo the work that was meant to have been done. That’s 198b…
Oh well in that case, £200 bn lost, plus 200bn to re do all that work when we do eventually join and then another eleventy billion for things I made up just like you.
And no, the UK hasn’t spent 200b on brexit. You are demonstrating stunning levels of economic illiteracy now.
OBR says otherwise.
You've already demonstrated you're willing to make incorrect statements (charitable) and unsupported claims, bit rich to be saying anything about others literacy.
When I present you evidence of EU incompetence and corruption, you claim this as evidence of competence and purity.
I never said that though.
I said
' I think those are both fantastic examples of accountability' which is an entirely different statment
Do you always make up these straw men to knock down,do you think putting words in your debate opponents mouth is a god way to argue? You are simply incapable of responding to the actual point that's been stated or something?
I’m not a nationalist,
You voted for fucking Brexit mate, and you're defending it. If you aren't a nationalist, you're in bed getting fleas off them.
Honestly, you 'lexiters' are more deluded than the most red faced sun reading UKIPers.
So why do Bloomberg put it at 100bn based on that 4% figure?
Yeah, sounds unlikely doesn't it?
Let me ask you, what do you think it's cost the UK per year in billion pounds?