Evinceo

joined 1 year ago
[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

In my final year of high school debate

Most self aware rationalist.

I’m not an expert about X, but it seems like most of the experts about X think X or are unsure about it. The fact that Eliezer, who often veers sharply off-the-rails, thinks X gives me virtually no evidence about X. Eliezer, while being quite smart, is not rational enough to be worthy of significant deference on any subject, especially those subjects outside his area of expertise. Still though, he has some interesting things to say about AI and consequentialism that are sort of convincing. So it’s not like he’s wrong about everything or is a total crank. But he’s wrong enough, in sufficiently egregious ways, that I don’t really care what he thinks.

So close to being deprogrammed. So close. It's like when a kid finds out about the Easter Bunny but somehow still clings to Santa.

He links to this (warning, so long it has a whole 'why write this' section) article on Yudkowsky being wrong which amuses me.

Making basic errors that show you don’t have the faintest grasp on what people are arguing about, and then acting like the people who take the time to get Ph.Ds and don’t end up agreeing with your half-baked arguments are just too stupid to be worth listening to is outrageous.

This, but for AI lol.

If anyone would like to have a debate about this on YouTube...

LW equivalent of fight me irl bro

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

speaking as somebody who I don't think actually got any money directly from FTX Future Fund that I can recall

'All my firearms sank in a boating accident' energy.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

Far as I can tell none of them had the attention span for the BtB live show on Yudkowsky either which is a shame because I actually learned quite a bit from it (being that I'm not going to slog through HPMOR, even out of spite.)

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

Individualist mindrot

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago

He keeps talking though. This is my favorite bit:

The part I don’t understand is that you feel Gawker was scum. Thiel removed Gawker’s ability to be scum. Thus, by logic, the world was improved. Isn’t that the core of what you’re saying you wish billionaires did? Improve the world?

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

Wish we'd gone with software carpenter or software plumber.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most realistic Musk sales pitch.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Nobody tell these guys that the control problem is just the halting problem and first year CS students already know the answer.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'd be surprised how big the Libertarian/UBI overlap is.

At the most basic level, there's a pretty core libertarian belief that the government can't or shouldn't make decisions and individuals can or should. In this framework, giving money away to individuals will lead to it being spent better than if it was used for actual welfare. So although Libertarians tend to be anti-welfare, sometimes they make an exception for UBI, because it's still a free market solution.

Some progressives like it to, of course. Means testing is a burden, and limiting what you can spend (for example) WIC on can feel a lot like haves trying to control the lives of the have-nots.

For TREACLES though, I think there's a more pathological element at play: they plan to put everyone out of work and need a way to avoid a torches and pitchforks scenario.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was going to say that but couldn't find the article that told me.

[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hasn't Future Perfect always been a TREACLES mouthpiece?

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