Yea I'm with you. For a few days, I was debating if I wanted to get the word out to some select communities and friends regarding kbin / lemmy / fediverse stuff, but I've come to the decision to keep it personal. As you mentioned, there's a self-selection thing going on and those that should be here will end up here anyway.
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Started feeling the same way after I left twitter and had been on mastodon for a few months! At first I was like holy shit it's so nice over here I have to tell everyone! Then I realized most people don't care and everyone who is here came because they made a conscious decision to find something better, not because someone talked them into it
Funnily enough, I've met most of my current online friends on Reddit. With this whole situation happening, I was the only one out of them that got pissed off enough to actually move over to the fediverse. I know they're all good people that could engage with content, but they're not particularly interested in making the move here. I hope with some more time, this place will be more appealing as an alternative to them, and to more people like them.
How do you think people end up here then? I came in by someone mentioning it on Reddit because that person felt that it wasn't personal.
If word isn't spread, people will not find Lemmy or Kbin.
Same way I found it. But what I think is being said is: not everyone wants to leave Reddit. If they do, sure let them know. But a lot of people don't want to switch.
I think that also many other people, who maybe use subs that were not part of the blackout didn't even know that there was a protest. some friends of mine didn't know till i told them.
I posted a thread in the reddit alternatives sub so people can see it if they go looking for it but I'm not not trying anything in the large subs for that reason.
I have to keep reminding myself that (a) it works differently, and (b) it's not as polished. But I actually like the latter quite a bit. It feels a lot like reddit when I joined circa 2009—and I'm realizing I really forgot what it was like.
tangentially related but I like source-engine games a lot, and I think the jank of TF2, Gmod, Portal 1, HL2, etc. made me accustomed to buggy software. I know Steam is a buggy mess under the hood, especially in the betas, but I just kinda... deal with it? It made the transition to kbin a lot more smooth than it probably should've been. And I got a 429 error multiple times when signing up!
There's a certain authenticity to software that feels like it's held up by duct tape, whether it's a game or a website.
Additionally, that's why I like the fact that the fediverse is sort of technically complex and not particularly user-friendly, and if I had my way about it, it would stay that way.
Bluntly, technical complexity serves as a barrier-to-entry for lazy and stupid people, and that's a good thing.
I'm old enough to remember when the internet as a whole was like that - when you had to have some technical knowledge and determination just to get online at all. And I remember how much and how quickly things went downhill when that was no longer the case.
I agree. The early days of the Internet were technically complex enough to prevent mass usage. F.e., Usenet.
yes this is a good take. So far across beehaw, lemmy, and kbin I have had much more meaningful interactions with people.
After 12 years, I’m done with Reddit, the writing is on the wall - they are catering to the Facebook style and type of user. Their major focus is users scrolling their feeds. There is no place for them there as time continues on.
I am looking to a future where I can contribute and get something different out of my time on the internet. it doesn’t bother me that every community hasn’t migrated, I’m trying to spend my time learning about new ones and expanding my horizons.
Also I like the idea of not having a monolithic replacement that would lead to the same problems. Let us have a flourishing lemmy, kbin, saidit, etc...
I literally have no choice as I'm IP-banned on Reddit. I may be able to create a new account if I get a new PC, but most likely not while I live at my current address. Fuck Reddit anyways, they're literal garbage.
What did you get the boot for?
A new PC is unlikely to get you a new public IP. If you have a router, that's what's receiving the IP address.
It may be possible to get a new IP by changing the router's MAC address though, if the model allows that. (There's no guarantee that it'll work, but it's fairly common for DHCP servers to save a mapping of MAC address -> IP adresses, so if the router's MAC address changes, you may get a different IP address.)
Finally I have found my enclave of high quality people and no longer need to hang out with the riffraff! /jk
I love that investing a little bit of time learning about the fediverse is allowing me to get back to my roots as an early internet adopter (usenet).
This place is ass because people won't post content, they just want to bitch about reddit.
That will fade.
Early days mate. Just wait until July 1st.
I took part in the protest because I was a third-party client user (Sync) pissed off that I wouldn't be able to use it anymore. The official Reddit app is officially crap.
I found Lemmy right away and spent the blackout checking things out. I loved it (though I've since switched to kbin after comparing). I only went back to Reddit yesterday... to delete my account.
This is where I'm meant to be. Thanks for having me.
Same, can I ask what exactly made you decide on kbin vs lemmy? Just curious
I went with kbin for the interface. It’s way more familiar to me.
True. But I have to say that it did take me some time to warm up to the fedi concept. I don't think it's bad to drop the idea on people. For many people it takes several times of hearing something to get it.
I will say that even in my minor looks back over at Reddit now, even in subs that were not hotbeds of anti-Reddit activity, the posting quality has dropped dramatically. It feels like there's some quiet quitting going on to me. And at some point those folks will look for an outlet, or a source of news, or something. So being ready for them is good.
I am one of the quiet quitters. I go to reddit considerably less often than before. It is kind of a silent protest - although I miss one or two subreddits.
I am not sure I grok the fediverse concept already enough to feel at home. Microblog, magazines etc. But we'll get there eventually.
I saw a discussion aboht lemmy in the comments section of the Financial Times, of all places. The FY was reporting on the reddit drama, in the comments the consensus was that the Lemmyverse, while janky, had an authenticity ane charm that reddit had lost a long time ago.
I concur with that sentiment.
Haha. That commenter was me. This is funny.
Im just tired of the control, and gas lighting - I've found I can digest this site much better and leads to over all less social media - huge productivity boost getting off of reddit - most of that shit is bland garbage that feels like bot city.
I think a lot is those who remember / use old Reddit. Those that joined and only know new Reddit and the official Reddit app will stay. that is why there are a lot of 10cake redditors here and a lot of younguns there.
The whole federation thing is confusing though…
Client selection on iOS is quite limited too. I’d love if there was an Apollo-like Lemmy client complete with all the gestures and seamless Imgur upload.
But even then, trying to find a community is challenging because of the decentralized nature of it
There’s potential for sure, but I can’t see it taking off with the general public in the current state
I had a half-baked thought that an instance and a bare-bones mobile client should be set up specifically for newcomers, with a utility for transferring to another instance when they feel knowledgeable enough to decide. The client could have tooltips or a tutorial bot to gradually introduce fediverse concepts.
Keep in mind that, from what I have seen while browsing the Threadiverse (is this the correct term?), there are some Lemmy/Kbin iOS and Android clients in development, so once they get out of that early development phase, then this shouldn't be an issue anymore.
Iconoclasts. The others can‘t even imagine a world without Reddit, but here we are, building it.
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