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Vivaldi (and Edge) have this absolutely wonderful capability that allows me to split one tab into two or four at the same time.

At least in my workflow it's quite useful because I usually work with several tabs open and sometimes two related tabs (say, a document I'm reading and a document I'm replying to according to that one), I know that I can perfectly have another Firefox window open next to it and fulfill that function, but I wish I could do it directly from Firefox.

Does anyone know of an add-on that fulfills this purpose? Or maybe a dev who is developing it?

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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The minute Firefox adds this and tab stacking, im gonna switch to it and never look back (although I would also miss workspaces). For now only Vivaldi has the features I need

[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I really enjoy the Firefox tree view add-on for managing tabs.

[–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I prefer Sidebery for vertical tabs. Very customizable.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People suggest that but I tried and to me it does come close to tab stacking to each their own I suppose

[–] Reborn2966@feddit.it 5 points 1 year ago

tree style tab for the win

[–] sxt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ever since they added tab stacking it's become vital to how I use browsers. Idk if I could switch to something else without it having a way to approximate that flow.

[–] duckington@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

By tab stacking you mean that feature where you can create those collapsible tab groups, right?

[–] doc@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's different. Instead of grouped tabs that expand within the same row of tabs, tab stacks show the group in a second row of tabs. Works great if you have a lot of tabs that tend to shrink in width to much to be usable.

[–] 10EXP@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Floorp, a browser based on Firefox, has Workspaces I believe (along a LOT of other stuff). Might be worth checking out.

Their website is in Japanese, but the GitHub page is in English. I’m sleepy and too lazy to link stuff right now, sorry.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If they have stacking tabs, I'm in

[–] boerbiet@feddit.nl 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the feature I miss most in Firefox, aside from tab stacking. I used Opera (before Blink days) and later Vivaldi for a long time and tehese features almost made me go back. Me not wanting to use a Chromium based browser was the only thing stronger than that.

I've given up hope on ever getting these features in Firefox by now.

[–] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Completely agree.

[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I switched from Vivaldi to Librewolf a while back and I found Panorama Tab Groups and I think it is superior. YMMV

[–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I don't think that's the same thing.

Tab tiling means having two or more tabs open at once, so that both can be worked on at the same time.

[–] Jomn@jlai.lu 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is there also something in Firefox that works like Vivaldi workspaces ? Between that, tiling and tab stacking, I really have a hard time using anything else than Vivaldi at work.

[–] Xirup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not exactly what you are looking for but Sidebery has a feature called Snapshots that allow you to save a group of tabs in their current state to open them later.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

That's more of an alternative to vivaldi sessions, not workspaces

[–] Jomn@jlai.lu 3 points 1 year ago

Interesting. I'll need to test it to see how it exactly behaves.

[–] nix@merv.news 3 points 1 year ago

Idk about an extension in firefox but there’s a firefox fork than includes workspaces by default called floorp https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp/releases/tag/v11.1.0

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

There are tab group manager addons. One of them is Simple Tab Groups

[–] badgerwrench@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/

I'm using this one. You can set hotkeys to switch to a specific named group or to go to next or previous. I use it all the time.

[–] reflex@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was looking into this because of the whole WEI thing and Vivaldi being part of the Chromium ecosystem—I found a tiling plugin for the 'fox, but visually, it's not seamless like Vivaldi's.

Each tile still looks like its own window complete with the tab space up top.

[–] doc@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

FYI, Vivaldi posted their opposition to WEI here. If website operators use the scheme then browsers not implementing it are at a loss. Hopefully every chrome based project (including edge!) is able to remove it so Chrome official is the only one where it works. Starving the approach of participants sounds like the only easy to make it fail.

[–] yesdogishere@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

the only thing google chrome is good for is destroying humanity. everything they do now has an ulterior motive to benefit themselves. just like apple and MS.

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

While that's definitely where we need to aim, chrome has such a massive market share even if all the non chrome browsers band together it might not be enough.

I can see banks and employment sites implementing these things and forcing the hand of the smaller browser. I hope I'm wrong, but that seems likely.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you mention edge? Why would microsoft remove it?

[–] doc@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Edge uses pieces of Chrome, so it will probably have the same WEI stuff unless MS chooses to remove it. Given the goals of MS probably aligns more closely with Google than other browser makers I think it's likely edge will have WEI.

[–] igorlogius@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The closest thing i know of, would be https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tile-tabs-we/ still window based, but ... at least it doenst introduce any iframe vulerabilities that way.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just curious: Vivaldi devs are always very keen in telling everyone how much they modify chromium to fit their privacy standards. Are they worse than Firefox?

[–] heartfelthumburger@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

Given that part of Vivaldi is closed source, it will always be 'worse' than Firefox in terms of privacy.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That's a very broad question. They have some advantages, like built in ad-blocker (firefox only has tracker blocker) with customizable lists, no analytics except basic user counting.

Firefox in theory has the advantage of being open source though I doubt anyone has independently taken it upon themselves to audit the code base of a whole browser, without payment.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still waiting on tab stacks before I switch completely. I'm also slightly disappointed that Vivaldi only has 2 levels of tab stacks. I would absolutely use more levels if I could.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

If you need 2+ tab stacks, I think you would rather need a tab group manager, like Simple Tab Groups. It does not support nested groups, but you may be able to imitate it with "folder names" in the group name, or there might be better such addons too.
Honestly, I don't see how 2+ rows of tabs (+stacks) would fit on screen

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it really that different from having multiple windows? I don't understand why it is such a important feature that others in the thread make it out to be. Feels like I am missing some details, just curious on what the actual difference is.

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Workarounds are generally bad in most software situations. Yes we could tile the windows instead of the tabs, but

  • We would have to put them all back in one window when exiting to get them saved
  • Alternatively we could use profiles, but that's a hassle on startup.
  • It probably eats up more resources
  • If we wanted to relocate our "Firefox workplace" to somewhere else (let's say another monitor) we would have to drag multiple windows.
  • On linux some window managers are just not there with tiling yet (and they might never be).
  • Also it looks bad and is a workaround to something that should just be. Hope I didn't miss anything, and you sir have a nice day :)
[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Also if you could easily tile multiple windows it would use significantly more screen real estate as each separate window will have its own top bar

Wait until you discover tiling window mangers....

I never thought about that featured and looks like a good idea. We might ask for it , if enough people ask for it Firefox will eventually implemented

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

that would be sick

[–] murtaza64@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I would love something like this!

[–] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[–] abominabledrh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not the last time I looked (about a month ago). You can tile windows on your screen, but not tabs within a window.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting feature, do we know about other browsers that support this?