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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Everyome talling about chains, but isn't the main issue someone robbing you when you're not inside??

[–] higgsboson@dubvee.org 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Most hotels do provide a safe for (smallish) valuables.

[–] You999@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Most those safes are laughably bad at security. Especially when the hotel can reset the pin incase a guest forgets and the instructions on how are on the internet.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, what valuables are you leaving in your hotel room? The only thing in there for me is usually my clothes, and while they may be kinda nice, they're really far from resell-them-at-a-profit-nice.

[–] bjorney@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Laptop, passport, cash beyond what I'm willing to keep in my wallet

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense. Mostly stopped taking my laptop (don't wanna be able to work on holidays), tend to have passport with me (probably makes it more likely to be stolen, but makes me feel better), and tend to only get what I am willing to have with me from the ATM (only works because my destinations tend to have enough ATMs, and I have a card that doesn't charge FX fees).

So all in all, a bit situational, I guess.

Yup, get an account with a bank with international ATM-fee reimbursement and stop carrying so much cash.

In the US, two good options are Schwab and Fidelity, and there are probably others.

[–] ringwraithfish@startrek.website 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is the lock picking lawyer and today I'm going to show you why you should always lock your hotel door with the chain...

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He did a video on chains though...

Rubber bands win...

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So basically every hotel is a ghetto motel where you should move the dresser in front of the door.

[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Or just use the chain that literally every hotel room has on the door.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

And when you aren't in the room?

[–] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 3 points 8 months ago

Take the dresser outside first, and block the door from the outside instead.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Hire a roomsitter to chain the door when you leave

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

IF you're in the room you would probably wake up from the noise before the lock is compromised

Perhaps. But that's not going to matter much if there's just a young child or something inside, or you happen to be a deep sleeper. A practiced individual could probably get it to be a bit quieter (e.g. with a metal hanger to tug it out).

I think the chain is better than the bar though, since the bar can be defeated without noise.

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[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago

Doesn't anyone think of hotel chain profits these days??

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Deviant Ollam has done a couple of videos about hotel security. One of them--one that I can't find right now--used a wedge that had an adjustment screw, so that even if the lock was cracked, you needed a battering ram to open the door. OTOH, you could only use it while you were in the room, so it's not any good at protecting valuable objects while you're not in the room.

If you're being personally targeted by someone with any real level of skill, or an organization with resources, most security measures that you have available to you as an individual of modest means are unlikely to help significantly. In general, locks are there to keep honest people honest, and that's about it.

Yup, all an attacker needs is a maid's key to get in. That's a pretty low barrier to entry...

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The only real solution here is to allow guests to bring their own locks. So there could be one lock provided by the hotel and accessible by the maids, and a second lock with a deadbolt that you could provide your own core for.

If you want your room cleaned, leave your lock unlocked.

If you want to do that, you put down a deposit (like $100-200 for a locksmith to come) to get the master key for changing the lock, and you get the deposit back at checkout once they prove you've removed it (could be a digital check). That way the hotel is never out anything aside from the inconvenience of calling a locksmith, and guests get the option of better security and privacy.