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[–] qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Number doesn’t matter, quality and engagement does. If people make an effort to keep engaging with posts and leaning in, this place will be good no matter the user count. As it is, 100k or so active users seem like enough to keep the flow of posts fresh, but not enough for them to be populated with lots of comments

[–] BanjoShepard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with this. I find myself often let down when I read a post and reflexively go to the comments for more information only to find one or two comments. I've been trying to comment more as a result.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s part of it, I feel I want to engage more, and the engagements here are better. Seems like any post that gained traction on Reddit would inevitably devolve into tropes and people arguing instead of discussing.

The amount of people here that want/expect Reddit 2.0 is a little shocking.

[–] BanjoShepard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been seeing the sentiment a lot lately about Reddit comment sections devolving into tropes. Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't recall seeing that so much as time went on. Especially the the "this" comment that so many people have referenced. I feel like that comment in particular was getting plenty of hate on Reddit itself. Subredditsasahashtag were definitely a thing, but I didn't find them particular disruptive. Especially being able to skip to the next parent comment.

A that being said, what I most hope for Lemmy comment sections is subjects matter experts who provide additional jumping off points for additional expiration of the original post's topic.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It was all of the “this”, fourth comment in a chain being downvoted, stuff having to be labeled serious or it would be jokes.

It likely could be how you viewed it too, I viewed a lot of r/all, so it sormthing is there, it’s already popular and any new comments aren’t going to go very far.

Little different if you were commenting on newer posts that didn’t “blow up” yet. There’s another one, the edit thanking people for the post blowing up or whatever.

Plenty of them.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Couldn't care less about the number. The atmosphere, though...if it could not devolve into absolute user-driven shit, I'd be grateful.

[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

it not user driven, what should it be driven by? i don't think i understand your sentiment here.

[–] rjthyen@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The best part about reddit was a community for everything with users with experience that could answer your question. Whether I needed help configuring a router, help worth a plumbing question, or advice on hiking boots I could find an answer either by searching our posting out I needed something more specific. Number of users helps build that knowledge pool, but so far I prefer the community here much more.

I posted this comment and never would've on reddit lol

[–] darmabum@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

This is what I was going to say. More users means more knowledge, diversity and depth of content, but also brings more garbage along with it. Meaning more effort for the moderators to filter, and more responsibility on all of us to up/down vote based on real information value rather than just emotional knee jerk.

[–] pound_heap@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

The more the merrier. Yes, there will be more shit content, but there will be more quality content and engagement. Small platforms tend to die or become an echo chamber.

I want Lemmy to replace Reddit completely

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Bigger. I hate that mentality I see on Mastodon where they want to fuck up the network to keep it small for minorities or whatever the dumb reason. More people, more content, and more people who have social media freedom. Decentralization is healthy and freedom, and I think it should downright replace modern social media entirely.

[–] billbasher@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The people here seem generally nicer and more engaging. The level of content is pretty solid but it will be hard to grow the niche type of communities that people relied on for quality information without growing significantly. That will then attract the lurker style people who I’m guessing were responsible for a lot of the negative things about Reddit. Downvoting without commenting, commenting fluff, etc

[–] Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No I'm a lurker, I just don't respond very often so much as just see the conversation. The reason people did that shit on reddit was because of the sense of anonymity, u saw it happen to 4chan to a greater extent.

[–] billbasher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I didn’t mean to imply that all lurkers were like that. Yeah I think everyone browses conversations without engaging to a certain degree. Its what makes posts great! It’s just a little disheartening getting downvoted a bunch for speaking an opinion with no replies. If I’m gonna downvote something I usually try to respond

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I didn't mind the number of people on Reddit, I had a problem with Reddit itself being greedy. If something shitty happens here I can move instances or host my own. That's why I'm here now, so I don't really care how big it grows.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd prefer a slow but steady rise instead of explosive one. Instance like Lemmy.world just couldn't take the heavy load any further without Lemmy fixing the issue(iirc there's a bug causing high load with no apparent reason).

As for the growth, idk, i feels like lemmy cannot realistically pull majority of Reddit user unless Lemmy also turn to reddit, like have the feature that appeal to general masses. So i think it's much better to remain low while grow steadily. Not like we have the choice tbh.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think thats right. The reason I got fed up with reddit is because I realized I was arguing with teenagers. I couldn't be sure, but my gut told me a lot of the time the reason the person was being entirely unreasonable was because they were trying to "win" an argument, rather than talk about something.

My concern w/ Lemmy is the same- if it becomes too common and popular, it will just have everyone on the internet on it, and very young people are very on the internet

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but it already happened here, after all this place house the refugee from the blackout

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I fear to admit I am, myself a refugee :(

I became interested in mastodon as soon as musk bought twitter. I knew I needed to get off reddit and when the protests started, I made my sub private and haven't been back since

[–] uplusion23@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

I remember almost two years ago seeing more reposts than ever on Reddit, and how the top comments were never original. Made me reminiscent of 2015-era reddit when it was popular enough for mindless content, but not just another social media site. I want lemmy to be like that

[–] Sickify@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I would like Lemmy to still gain in popularity, the subs I'm subscribed to are still pretty dead, and I'm still going back to Reddit for some specific band related subs.

Definitely don't think it needs to be near as big as Reddit though, the reposts to whore for karma, and overdone shit-posting and bots that come from something that big are not missed.

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've liked lemmy just the way it is from the beginning. I don't expect it to stay as intimate with this vibe of solidarity and critical thinking, but I'm enjoying the ride. I have always preferred smaller communities in every facet of my life. Small friend groups, small classroom, etc. Once you hit a certain number, things go off the rails fairly quickly ime. But in the end, if we can grow, and keep this same kinda culture moving forward? Imagine that, people coming together for common good.

[–] LambLeeg@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Would you had asked me that half of a year ago, I say no. However, nowadays, Lemmy seems to be alive and useable. So yeah

[–] 0x01@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The way it is right now is super nice, good engagement, not a ton of extremism, overall it definitely has a sense of community that reddit never had for me after the early "narwhal bacons" phase

Federation means that we can maybe just keep it up perpetually moving from any servers we dislike

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 1 year ago

Both. I think the general federated thread universe is going to be very general. And then you're going to have instances where you talk about your niche content. And those communities can coexist in the same architecture. This growth period is very important for the ecosystem, nailing down discovery, reputation, spam control, we're going to have to go through those growing pains just like Reddit did in the past.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I think the fewer people subjected to secret algorithms the better.

[–] fence_prude@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Remain smaller. It seems more like a community than reddit ever did.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Bigger better. More eyes, more crowds, more resources, more anonymity. Um, and better OC porn.

For now id settle for just being able to curate my feed better but it's exhausting

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Towards the end a vast number of Reddit users ended up being bots, or used for spam of other kinds of manipulation. And for the rest the majority were karmawhores that didn't drive engagement or provided any constructive content. The federation can be big, but keep Lemmy instances small and keep the content fresh. Promote diversification.

[–] shackleford@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

I would like the option to have reddit federate with Lemmy

[–] oSillyScope@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When will you people move on? If you miss the other site so much, go back. Every 5th goddamn post lately is about , or comparing to, or pining away over that other site. Get over your ex or go back.

[–] wtry@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is quite literally the fediverse alternative to reddit, making it the easiest to compare to.