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[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 44 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Frankly, the most ideologically inconsistent part of this attack is that the attackers ran away instead of dying and being martyred. That's not in line with ISIS and much more in line with self-radicalized individuals such as in the Boston Marathon bombings.

[–] filoria@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago

Weirdest ISIS attack in a while for sure. The Iranian attack was via suicide bombers, which is at least ideologically consistent.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is that actually inconsistent with ISIS tactics? They've been fighting Russia in Syria. Suicide attacks may just not be in vogue with how they fight. I'm not talking from experience, just questioning your assumption that past patterns still hold.

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Fighting and terrorism follow different rulebooks in general.

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The man says that before committing Friday’s atrocity, he had been to Türkiye. When asked what he did at the Crocus City concert venue on Friday evening, he replied: “I shot down... people.” The suspect added that he had committed the crime “for money,” detailing that he had been promised 500,000 rubles ($5,418).

The alleged perpetrator claimed that half the sum had already been transferred to his debit card.

The man also said that the curators, whom he supposedly does not know personally, had contacted him via Telegram messaging app, and arranged an arms cache for the assailants.

The man describes how an acquaintance who he'd befriended on Telegram “ten to twelve days ago” had purchased a car, presumably with a view to using it as a taxi.

[–] borari@sh.itjust.works 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

detailing that he had been promised 500,000 rubles ($5,418).

Fuck me, this really hammers home that first world privilege. More than that amount of USD hits my checking account each month in my direct wages. This guy knew what would happen to him when he was caught then decided that risking misery in Siberia before being executed was worth less than a month of my take home pay. I mean i get that some level of radicalization is involved here, but still what the fuck.

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The attackers are supposedly Tajik. USD5418 is at least 2 years of work there.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Even if I made $100,000USD a year I'm not sure I would agree to massacre a hundred people for $200k.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'd assume, with the numbers you gave, you're quite comfortable in life. What if your life was constant struggle with poverty? Not sure how to get food for your kids tomorrow? You get desperate

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The comments on that article are terrifying. There are people saying things like he and his family should be hanged.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Par for the course with what was said about the Boston Marathon bombers tbf. Humanity has a long ways to go.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This comes after mankind already has come a long way.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well we used to do that not just have people say we should. Progress!

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Pretty weak one considered that after 9/11 one of the supposedly most civilized countries (at least according to its citizens) invaded 2 unrelated countries and kept wrecking them for decades, killing millions and plunging dozens of millions into suffering.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thanks for the heads up. There's some weird shit going on there

[–] denaggels@feddit.de 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a video. The video deserves to be evaluated on it's own merits (or lack thereof).

The "evidence" picked up by Western news agencies doesn't really hold water. I spent some effort debunking it in another comment: these are some really unradicalized radical Islamic extremists.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wow! A Russian news story would use a Russian source! Who would have guessed!!

Any more insightful revelations you'd like to show to the class, feddit de?

[–] TheUncannyObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What’s with posting stuff from Russian government tabloids?

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

It's almost as if the attack happened in Moscow and the suspects were arrested by Russian police.

[–] RemembertheApollo@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Picked up near the Ukrainian border, they say?

Wonder how much further they will go to tie this to Ukraine. Hasn't ISIS already claimed responsibility?

[–] naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Their extraction route was through Ukraine to Afghanistan. This is rather publicly acknowledged.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

They tried to get to Belarus first, as was confirmed even by Lukashenko himself