Fuck Cars
This community exists as a sister community/copycat community to the r/fuckcars subreddit.
This community exists for the following reasons:
- to raise awareness around the dangers, inefficiencies and injustice that can come from car dependence.
- to allow a place to discuss and promote more healthy transport methods and ways of living.
You can find the Matrix chat room for this community here.
Rules
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Be nice to each other. Being aggressive or inflammatory towards other users will get you banned. Name calling or obvious trolling falls under that. Hate cars, hate the system, but not people. While some drivers definitely deserve some hate, most of them didn't choose car-centric life out of free will.
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No bigotry or hate. Racism, transphobia, misogyny, ableism, homophobia, chauvinism, fat-shaming, body-shaming, stigmatization of people experiencing homeless or substance users, etc. are not tolerated. Don't use slurs. You can laugh at someone's fragile masculinity without associating it with their body. The correlation between car-culture and body weight is not an excuse for fat-shaming.
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Stay on-topic. Submissions should be on-topic to the externalities of car culture in urban development and communities globally. Posting about alternatives to cars and car culture is fine. Don't post literal car fucking.
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VIC police asked “What are pedestrians doing around 60 km/h zones?”, while the correct question to pose was “What are 60 km/h zones doing around pedestrians?”.
"The most vulnerable people are primary school children aged 4-12, intoxicated pedestrians aged 30-39, and elderly pedestrians aged over 70."
"As part of the campaign, Crime Stoppers Victoria will hit the streets to actively engage with high-risk pedestrians to educate them on how they can help keep our roads incident-free."
How does anyone see this as anything but bananas? Kids should be able to quickly and safely get to and from school without needing worry about whether or not a driver will mow them down. People who've been drinking are infamously not great decision makers so I don't know how "educating" will help any. And 70 year olds are vulnerable because they are 70 years old not because they don't know how dangerous cars are.
"'We have seen 175 pedestrians killed on our roads over the last five years, and a significant number of those have been in 60 km/h zones.'"
the problem is the cars and the car-centric infrastructure, jfc go fix that
Excerpt from article:
“We all play a role in keeping our roads safe and Crime Stoppers Victoria is offering vulnerable pedestrians the tools they need to use our roads safely,” she [Crime Stoppers Victoria Chief Executive Stella Smith] said.
“We have seen 175 pedestrians killed on our roads over the last five years, and a significant number of those have been in 60 km/h zones.
“We hope with more education and awareness we can reduce the number of injuries and most importantly, deaths on our roads.”
As part of the campaign, Crime Stoppers Victoria will hit the streets to actively engage with high-risk pedestrians to educate them on how they can help keep our roads incident-free.
I guess that means police will be out in force handing out fines to pedestrians and cyclists. “Job done!”
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Perhaps they are just talking to pedestrians and cyclists that are in a world of their own? Not everything to do with the copers has to do with fines.
The number of pedestrians I see crossing roads with their heads glued to their phones, cyclists at night with no lights or cruising through red lights, groups riding 4 abreast on narrow, winding and hilly 100kmh roads (just a few examples) is astonishing.
Like it or not vehicles will always exist and it is up to everyone to play their part in not being a danger to anyone else or themselves.
Yes there are a lot of reckless, careless, distracted or entitled drivers but there are also pedestrians and cyclists that fit squarely in one or more of those categories.
I say this as someone who has been severely injured on my bicycle as the result of a hit and run, but also continues to ride. I also ride motorcycles and drive over 1000km per week for work for over 40 years, avoiding idiots multiple times a day, be they driving, walking or riding.
Perhaps we all need to be more spatially aware, courteous and in less of a hurry with more sense of self preservation, regardless of our mode of transport.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. ✌️
Everyone here reacts very negatively to this because blaming pedestrian has been, via jaywalking rules, in the past, a strategy encourage by car companies to push cities toward more car centric cities. Also it's been proven over and over that car speed is the main factor in pedestrian collisions.
Obviously everyone should be well aware of the dangers of their everyday life and education is good as long as the lesson isn't "get the fuck out of the way or die"
I'm curious, what is your relationship to fuckcars and urbanism in general? Which subreddits and/or YouTube channels do/did you frequent?
I didn't think I needed a relationship to join a conversation.
What the fuck is this gatekeeping shit?
Who gives a fuck where they posted or what they watched.
Wow. First of all mate, let's chill out a little, hey? Personally, one of the things that I've loved about Lemmy so far is how much more civil it has been than Reddit. Let's try and keep it that way.
As to your main point: I'll be satisfied with an answer of "literally anything". I just suspect that this person isn't an urbanist, and has in fact just blown in from the wider car-brained community. I'm happy to be proven wrong on that though.
I'm all for walkable cities and all that but being mad about this is some nonsense.