Asklemmy

Trust is the hardest thing to reclaim once lost, and this isn't the first break. Big social is having problems, it's the natural course of things.

For me, they'd have to

1. Replace /u/spez
2. Implement some sort of publicly auditable accountability re: shadowbans and database-level comment editing
3. Open-source significant parts of their platform.

I have zero expectation that any of these things will happen. The most healthy way forward, for an open and free internet, is the meritocracy of the fediverse.

The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.

Even if they did, I think a lot of redditors have been fed up with some things with Reddit (both the company and the first-party app) for a while.

Of course, there will be people who just don't care and will continue to go about their redditing as usual, and those who will go back. A fair number of my close friends don't care at all as they use the first-party app, have no complaints, don't moderate any subreddits, and don't follow the Internet news.

I would love to see my primary communities move over to federated social platforms. It reminds me of the Web1.0 and earlier Web2.0 days.

Reddit's handling of the API change criticisms showed me how little they care about the community that keeps them afloat. The way the CEO's AMA pretty much ignored all criticism of the API changes (including comments asking why the new price is so extortionately expensive) whilst lying about Apollo's developer threatening them.... They've shown their real colours now

I don't want to use a platform prioritising profits above everything else. I used Reddit for over a decade and they've eradicated all trust I had in them within a few days. Reddit as a company clearly only want to line their own pockets. Even if they reverse the decision, at this point it'd clearly be a PR move to save their sinking reputation rather than coming from a place of genuine constructive dialogue.

Its a shame, but at the same time I'm excited to see where things go from here. Reddit's always had a bit of a quality control problem due to its sheer volume of content. Maybe this mass exodus will lead to a replacement platform with a more refined, engaged userbase.

Personally, I don't see myself going back. I'll just chill with my new community here.

Nope. Everyone makes mistakes. But you don't go full Armageddon on the people whose blood, sweat & tears built you up from diddly, and then say "oopsie." It don't work like that, Spez. Have fun with your IPO.

I will admit that I'd keep RiF on my phone just to doomscroll in airports and whatnot. Though I think I'm going to stop my desktop use (90% of my use) of Reddit regardless. The writing is on the wall for old.reddit.

I already like the community here more

They've already posted that they're going to "double down" on ads on their platform and they are not going to back down on the API rules: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads

I’ve returned to Reddit from Lemmy in the past, but this time it’s different. There are enough people posting content here now that it feels like a community (and not just a few nerds hoping it will take off). Never thought I’d say this but, thanks Spez for creating such a vibrant community.

It wouldn't matter at all, because it's just a matter of time before they implement such features and don't back down.

They'll just continue shit-testing us until the blowback isn't enormous if they go this route.

I don't think I'll go back except for niche content/communities I don't expect to see here for a while.

Im not going back after that AMA they showed their face and it was very very ugly (not that spez looks good in person either)

use both lemmy and reddit

I think if this works out I may switch permanently if they back out. If not I will only use Reddit as the occasional info lookup and use this as my “social media”

I don't trust Reddit any more. I made a comment elsewhere about why.

Reddit showed their hand and I'm just done with all these corpos. Reddit is my last hold out and I'm slowly leaving that too. I'm moving to the decentralized FOSS future that I believe in where we the people have the power.

What kept me at reddit was the content, not the company. If the content moves here, then this is where I'll stay. If most content remains at Reddit, which would be unfortunate. Then I'd probably try to juggle both, depending on how my time goes here.

So far, it's been rather positive. I've got most of my daily dose of community conversation, but I'm missing that video streak at the moment.

For me at this point I think Steve Huffman would need to step down along with a step back of their changes. I can't trust the platform given his track record.

Lemmy is too good to leave. I don't think I'm alone either. I was wanting an alternative for a while.

Yeah, I'd go back. I notice the bot content has gotten bad on Reddit, but the communities I follow are still okay.

Lemmy reminds me of early Reddit and I like that. The mask is all the way off now. Reddit was pretty fun 10+ years ago but that time has come and gone.

I'm not going back, epescially since Apollo will be shutting down. I'm looking forward to what the dev can do with the Mlem iOS app, and I'm very interested in the community that is being built here.

Reddit is absolutely, 100% certainly not going to step back on these change. They've made up their mind long ago.

But just for the hypothetical: I think they lost a LOT of trust with the two most essential parts of the community - users and mods. Also the company (or rather, its CEO) may have taken significant image damage due to the "AMA" spez did.

I think business will go on as usual, but the decline will be more and more noticable over time. It will go the way of Digg. Unless of course reddit decides to hire moderation themselves. But we all know they probably wont want do do that. The course seems set to selling the data they have already accumulated.

Nothing could convince me to go back, we need decentralization.

I'm seeing how things play out.

I certainly like Lemmy and I could very well use both for a while. I'm mostly worried my favorite subs (especially my local City sub) won't migrate or be an active enough group here. Time will tell. I want to follow the community, not the platform.

The last time reddit pulled some shit, I found tildes and expanded the sites I visited regularly/ semi-regularly (and reducing how much time I spent on reddit). Reddit reverting the latest changes will only minimize the damage on my end, as I'll be spending time here that I could otherwise be spending over there.

This stunt reduced the already diminished trust I have for reddit. Having migrated to reddit due to the digg v4 fiasco, over the years, reddit's decisions have been like digg v4 in slow motion. Each fuckup just causes me to further reduce the amount of time I spend using the site. One of these days, they'll cross too many of my red lines, and reddit will become completely useless to me.

I'll use both then. reddit is still unparalleled for support, simply because of its sheer size

I've fully committed to replacing reddit in my life, I'm trying to be active here and pointing people to Lemmy when I can. Reddit has made it clear they dont care about users. they get content for free, moderation for free, etc. They pissed on their base and deserve a mass exodus. I just hope people follow through.

Been on reddit since 2010 and over the years I've gotten less and less interested and the only subs I still had interest in were the niche fashion communities.

I'm gonna be the change I want to see and created the lemmy community for one of my favorite brands (Supreme) and over time other ones will fill out the space. I'm also gonna join a patreon discord for better fashion discussion than the reddit subs anyway and was something I'd been wanting to do anyway before the recent events.

With those as a replacement I should be fine. I'm also way more excited about investing into an exciting new community with lemmy that reminds me of the early reddit days. Reddit will only continue to get worse as it gets more corporate and terrible in the same way Facebook and other platforms went downhill over the years. Lemmy is on the come up