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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 107 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Been hearing on the radio all kinds of Comcast ads like "we've raised our internet speeds for free!" I knew there was something else at play.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I'm loving my t mobile 5g gateway in my area. No packet loss, ping around 50, and my last game download held over 200Mbps the entire time for a flat rate of $30 a month. Works a lot better than the cable net I had.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What's the data cap?

For shit Comcast it is 1TB which is ridiculously low.

Then they also completely lie to your face about your metrics to make it look like you are always constantly almost at the 1TB cap.

My mom in America just had xfinity installed last fall at her house. She barely uses the internet besides web shopping, articles, and some Netflix. Every month she was somehow at 950-980GB. New WiFi password so there isn't an intrusion, her computer was fine, there is no way she is using that much. Comcast just lies to your face to higher data caps. Data caps for internet should be illegal as it is.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 8 months ago

There's not a "cap" but beyond 1.2TB you will get moved to low priority on your cell tower, so if there's any network congestion your internet will go to shit.

I've never ran into this issue since I live in a sweet spot thats close to a tower and doesn't have any high occupancy buildings or heavy road traffic that would cause congestion.

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[–] GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I also have T-Mobile 5G. I once had the luxury of being able to buy fiber 1G up/down before I moved to a new area and that was the absolute best of any ISP I've ever had. Now my only real option with a physical connection is Xfinity copper that was offering 200mbps down 10 mbps up for just $50/mo* terms and conditions apply. $50 is the promotional price for this offer. After one year this offer will expire. Then every year id have to field a call from their promotional dept. offering a 100mbps increase to my speeds for just $5 more per month rather than losing the promotional price and the bill costing $80 with no increase. The straw that broke the camel's back was an attempt to charge an extra $5 a month for using autopay with a debit card. I could save that fee by switching to using my bank's routing number. So I told Comcast 🖕and switched.

My favorite story though is when an Xfinity rep called me to ask about who provides my cell phone service. When I told them that i use Mint mobile and pay $20/mo for 20GB of data or whatever it was at the time, they just straight up told me, "Oh gotcha. Yeah, we can't compete at that price." Then hung up 😂

My only real gripe with T-Mobile so far is that if your price is accurate, then I'm paying an extra $15/mo just based on location despite there being no physical difference in our connection. Also i don't like that I'm unable to do any port forwarding on T-Mobile so it prevents me from running my Jellyfin server and PiHole from home and being able to use it anywhere.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I’d argue that the main driver for all of this is the increased rollout of fiber. Companies like AT&T started broadly rolling out gigabit plans for what people were paying for sub 50 megabit cable plans. And the lines handled neighborhood network congestion better.

Comcast has to figure out how to be competitive, or they are going to get their asses handed to them.

AT&T and Comcast are both terrible companies with horrible customer service, but fiber is always going to be better than copper.

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[–] june@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, they’ve been doing that for years. In the two years since I first got my service at my house I went from 200gig to 800gig with no price increase. It’s p SOP these days when network upgrades take place in your area.

[–] coffeejoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

800gig? Can I come live with you?

[–] WordBox@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

500kbs upload and 1gb cap -comcast

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[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fuck that, instead of making them increase their imaginary "up to" numbers, make them advertise contractually guaranteed minimums. Id rather have a 25 mb minimum over a 100 mb maximum that usually sits around 8 mb.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

When I bought internet services and colocated with major carriers every contract came with a Quality of Service rider that stipulated guaranteed quality and quantity of service. If my metrics fell below those minimums I had recourse. But, I could not extend that to my customers because they were using a shared resource I was providing. In general, though, I agree that there should be a QOS with every user connection.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 32 points 7 months ago

and 20Mbps for upload

What we actually care about.

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

100mbps symmetric should be minimum standard. 100mbps down with 10mbps up is worse than remote islands with mud huts. Seriously, I was on a Pacific island that looked like what an after hurricane photo op does, and they had direct access to the fiber cables. So gigabit symmetric internet ONTs glued to the side of huts for a few bucks a month.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (15 children)

100Mb/s is still pretty abysmal.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

A 4x increase for download and a 7x increase requirment for upload.

That's a pretty solid improvement, honestly. They also have plans on whne to increase it to 1Gbps down/500Mbps up, so it seems like they are taking it seriously.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s long overdue and gigabit should be standard

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It is long overdue, as the last update was 2015, when a democrat was President. The GOP refused to do it, and it took some time to seat a new FCC head due to Republican obstruction.

Gigabyte is coming, just not yet. This is a fine incremental step.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We should’ve had it when we paid for it, instead of telecom execs pocketing the money.

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago
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[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

lol I've never had anything over 12Mb/s. Currently have 8Mb/s, which costs roughly half than what I use to pay for 500kb/s

I would love to have 100Mb/s. Hell even half that.

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[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cool, now make them use bytes as the system of measurement and we'll be on to something.

[–] Blackmist 11 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I fear that will only happen when storage manufacturers are forced to use 1024 bytes per KB like everyone else.

In fairness it's a very longstanding tradition that serial transfer devices measure the speed in bits per second rather than bytes. Bytes used to be variable size, although we settled on eight a long time ago.

[–] pafu@feddit.de 7 points 7 months ago

1024 bytes per KB

Technically, it's 1000 bytes per KB and 1024 bytes per KiB. Hard drive manufacturers are simply using a different unit.

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[–] nowwhatnapster@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Altice (Optimum) took this opportunity to cut upload speeds from 35mbps to 20 under the guise of the "free upgrade". You want your old upload speeds back? Oh that's their most expensive tier now.

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

I'm dropping them, it was too unreliable for work from home. I pay twice as much now for fios

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I care more for stability and low latency, not so much speed.

Offering me a faster cellular or satellite connections doesn't interest me.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 8 months ago

There are features of IPv6 that would help there. I actually think pushing that to be rolled out widely is more important than 1Gbps connections.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

100Mbps is still very slow. Much better than 25Mbps, but still slow.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (16 children)

I have symmetric 1Gbps and do a LOT of data transfer (compared to 99.99% of people). And even then I rarely really would need or even notice more than 100Mbps.

For most people, in the real world, why is 100Mbps "very slow"?

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[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's amazing how much our views change with time. My dad was definitely a super early adopter of cable when it became available in our area, if I recall it was 16 Mbps which was unreal to me in 2002. I made do with 5 Mbps in uni and it was totally usable.

But now, I've had 1Gbps for years and wow it's so different, changes your habits too. I don't hoard installed games as much, I can pull them down in minutes so why keep something installed if I'm not going to use it?

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[–] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 13 points 8 months ago

*cries in Australian*

[–] deania@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My parents pay like 40 dollars per month for 1Mb down and like .2 Mb up

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Shit, that should legitimately be illegal.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Do they also have to feed the pigeons carrying the data packets?

[–] Bitflip@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

Aww, that's cute.

-posted from my 768k $80/mo broadband.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I'd like to see a big government push to provide municipal services in every single metro area and extend it by whatever means into rural communities.

Xfinity keeps raising rates, I'm paying more now for just internet than the cost of basic cable, internet + digital voice was back in the 00s. While around 800 down, it's still only about 40 something up, and has been like that for years and years.

I think we desperately need competition and if the government were to provide it, that'd be just fine.

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