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cross-posted from: https://mastodon.au/users/simongerman600/statuses/112025868592356511
(Originally published earlier today on mastodon.au)
How did they define "internet"?
For example if you asked my grandmother she would have said she never used internet. But we had video calls all the time.
What's up with Deutschland and Portugal? That's unexpected.
I can answer for Germany, it’s pretty much the same map as our demographic map. Eastern Germany is old, with older people not being interested in technology. Also this map seems to draw the borders on our states, so e.g. bavaria as a whole seems high, but it’s a mean vs median thing I guess.
Adding onto this, the two yellow spots are Hamburg and Berlin (which are city-states). The weirdest outlier to me is Bremen (the third city state), which is significantly worse than everywhere else (both dark spots are Bremen). No idea why though.
Poorest state in the country might be why
Idk about Deutschland but Portugal is still quite poor and quite rural. Their internet infrastructure is actually very good.
That being said, I find this number to be shockingly high, even for how poor Portugal still is.
O M G, you really cant imagine how rural this place is! We have a higher than average carbon footprint just from all the oxen carts in the street. We have a great internet infrastructure because no one connects to the internet, so its tops like 5 people online per day and you have the whole country’s internet just for you. /s The only reason at this point i dont say to visit Portugal is because we already have enough tourists to the point it disrupts normal day to day life in all the the major cities. Portugal is still on the poorer side of Europe but even so way ahead in terms of services and IT/Tech. Every one has to submit their taxes online so i don’t know how this map came to be. You see old folk quite active with their cellphones doing all sorts of stuff.
So, my wife is Portuguese and we’re moving there in a few months. I think the last thing you said explains this map - it’s far more likely to me that a bunch of old Portuguese people don’t consider their phones to be “the internet” because I’ve literally never met someone I. Portugal who hasn’t been online.
Also considering how some of the older folks view paying taxes I wouldn’t think paying taxes online guarantees that they use the internet. Quite the opposite :D
How common is it to pay someone to submit your taxes online?
Its common but mostly used by people who have multiple income streams or at the time, we have a lot of people working for different countries and one way to make it legal is to be a “one person company” and accountants will take care of it. For the less tech savvy there are programs in the city halls where someone helps people do it. The person still has to do it themselves though, they just sit there with a person telling them what to do.
We've had very high-ranking members of at least one major party still believing the internet is a fad as late as maybe 5-10 years ago. Their policies regarding expansion of fibre and mobile internet were accordingly.
In fact, the same party had to make a historic decision in the 80's regarding the expansion of communications grid (basically a choice between traditional copper or fibre) and our highly moral chancellor Kohl chose copper - so his homies who wanted to establish commercial TV would have it easier.
I had to turn my grandma phone data off on in the ISP itself because she was spending the plafond very fast and some more every month.
I know we aren't supposed to acknowledge that other place, but... https://www.reddit.com/r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT/
If this is self-reported I hope they also asked people (especially older ones) if they have used facebook etc. for verification purposes.
Not very different to a map showing income levels.
At least for my country it's actually very different, which kind surprised me. The richer regions have more people who have never used internet then the poorer ones.
Apparently Northern Ireland does not have the internet.
Czech Republic kinda looks like an orca.
Greeks wildin