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A 1956 agreement that allowed British boats to fish in the Barents Sea has been ripped up, in the latest sign of growing tensions between Moscow and the West.

The fishing deal was signed by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, but Russian politicians have now claimed it was never in the national interest.

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Russia's parliamentary speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said: "The British need to study some proverbs - 'Russians harness the horse slowly, but ride it fast'."

He told politicians that "the unscrupulous British" had eaten Russian fish for 68 years - declaring: "Now let them lose weight, get smarter."

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago

Canny disagree wi the second part, tbh πŸ˜‚

[–] snaprails 32 points 9 months ago

We should be fine, after all since Brexit we've plenty of happy contented British fish, right?

[–] anothermember@lemmy.zip 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Fish consumption, of course, being a famous cause of obesity?

Edit: Look, I'm making fun of the guy, I'm British, you don't need to all take it upon yourselves to explain fish and chips to me.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's probably a reference to fish & chips, which... yeah.

[–] anothermember@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago

I don't think that's the fish part

[–] JoBo 16 points 9 months ago
[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Fish and chips? Yeah

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So Kruschev did it, so it doesn't count, but they should get Ukraine because of something that happened 1200 years ago?

I've learned not to expect consistency from them but somebody there must see how ridiculous they look.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Of course they see. It’s the saying that gets one defenestrated.

[–] Mrkawfee 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

At the risk of whataboutery, Jews claimed Palestine after 2000 years and no one in the West found that a preposterous reason to ethnically cleanse and commit genocide.

[–] JoBo 1 points 9 months ago

It is extremely convenient to have the Palestinians pay the price for Europe's crimes. Logic and consistency have nothing to do with it.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Kruschev gave Crimea to Ukraine so it's consistent to reverse anything he did.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Country with no warm water ports say what?

[–] IsThisLoss@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

breaking: liberal DESTROYS sevastopol through sheer force of will

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

warm water ports

A meme that will only look sillier as climate change gets worse

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This guy doesn't understand climate change lol

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-53308-5

As Arctic ice continues to melt, [the Arctic Northern Sea Route] is anticipated to become more accessible to ships, albeit with navigational availability remaining contingent on the ship category and seasonal considerations.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

seasonal considerations

A nice way of saying with warmer climates weather becomes more intense and less predictable.

The artic north sea route also isn't what prevents them from using the port the entire year. It freezes, it will continue to freeze especially with the harsher cold snaps the globe faces.

Again you don't seem to understand climate change it is not "lol planet gets hot teehee"

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

artic north sea

When you have a deep understanding of the issue

It freezes, it will continue to freeze

No, the likely scenario is that maximal ice coverage will (continue to) recede noticeably.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Lol okay you're right Russia is immune to climate change. St. Petersburg definitely isn't having flooding issues and Vladivostok didn't get smashed by a freak ice storm that other places across the globe have also been smashed by

None of that happened I guess climate change isn't a problem

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

smuglord

We're talking about ports icing over, which will happen less as global temperatures rise. Bringing up other climate change problems (that are far from unique to Russia) does not change that.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

you know westoids get flooded way worse than russia right
their most populous area is literally 10 ft above sea level, for the entire country

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also like, Britain is islands and Russia is the largest country in the world. Who do you think is better equipped to handle rising sea levels? I know which has a LOOOOOT more inland.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 9 months ago

Russia faces more flooding than the UK because of thawing snow and ice you dummy.

You don't even know the country you're trying to defend. Learn geography moron

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Okay? St Petersburg has an issue with flooding. I don't know what you're trying to convince me of lmfao it's just the truth.

It is also the truth that Vladivostok got hit by a freak ice storm and their port freezes about 4 months out of the year.

Russia has always had struggles with ports. Climate change won't save them and will actively harm them like everyone else. Climate change also is not flat warming, that's what stupid people believe.

Why are you so insecure about those facts??

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So you believe in a literal sense all the maps drawn in the west that still call Crimea a part of Ukraine?

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And you believe the actual verifiable lies told by Russia for the whole affair? Moron

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

please tell me what I believe

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Apparently a bunch of bullshit if you believe what you said lol

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[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago

If that cunt Putin wants to get in the way of my fish suppers, he's gonna get a face full of dandruff. The wee Dobby looking gobshite that he is. Someone give him a sock so he can fuck off!

[–] GreatAlbatross 18 points 9 months ago

It's worth remembering that most things Russia says about the UK are for the domestic market.

Like all the "turn the uk into glass" stories, barely mentioned here, but a frequent drumbeat on Russian TV.

[–] Oneeightnine 15 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Big 'Screw you guys, I'm going home' energy here.

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure it's the British fishing boats who are going home in this scenario. Or, of course the other classic British move of starting a naval war over fishing rights.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

Seems like most countries would cancel this sort of arrangement with a country funding their opponent in a war

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

West: Coups border country on Russian borders, pumps weapons into said country, gleefully profits off of ensuing war, sanctions Russia, repeatedly drums up how Russia would be better off glassed

Russia: Alright then, no more fishing rights in our territorial waters.

West: frothingfash

[–] zkrzsz@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

Said right there in the post summary

Moscow says a 1956 agreement has been axed in response to the UK's sanctions on six people in charge of the penal colony where Alexei Navalny died.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

in the latest sign of growing tensions between Moscow and the West.

They're growing, are they? Cause from where I'm standing tensions have grown up, finished uni, settled down and recently had their second child

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

I think we should respect their sovereignty as they do for other nations.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

It was known earlier among Russians as the Northern Sea, Pomorsky Sea or Murman Sea ("Norse Sea");

So the sea is historically Norse, and as know russia is big on respecting historical owners, thus that this sea belongs to the Norsemen.

[–] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 10 points 9 months ago

Gosh, how unexpectedly kind of them. I've been meaning to shed a few pounds, the support is appreciated.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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