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Why do some languages use gendered nouns? It seems to just add more complexity for no benefit.

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[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Ok it strange thing that we call them gender. It goes back ancient greek.

Really what Spanish does is put all nouns into 2 groups, the A group and the O group. Then you have rules like el goes on o nouns and la goes on a nouns.

these evolve out of more complex classifier sysyems with many more categories. There is a podcast called lexicon vally that goes over this more details.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Robwords has an interesting video on this subject.

https://youtu.be/bKaVI-IStNE

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[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Quick Question (to OP and beyond) - the English language has wording for the gender of a person who acts - actor/actress.

Yet, these days, most people in the movie or theatre industry call themselves “actors”. They’ve dropped the word “actress”.

Do we know why?

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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

if i'm not mistaken, the explanation fpr portuguese is that latin didn't had gendered nouns, you had it, she, he, basically, but in the evolution it and he got merged, so we have she and he, i can be totally wrong tho

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

Él, ella, elle Yes now there's 3 of them

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Complexity is a benefit when it comes to language, as it allows greater or more robust transfer of information. There's a good comment downthread about how gender makes a language more robust: you know which object a pronoun refers to.

I'll point out that English is not free of gendered nouns, either: Ships, cities, and most nations are feminine, for example.

[–] raef@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Those are just esoteric or poetic uses. It's perfectly fine to just say "it" in all those cases, but there is still a distinction for people. It's worth considering the possibilities of that disappearing as well. In any case, we don't conjugate differently for genders

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[–] small44@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

It makes the language richer and more beautiful in my opinion

[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago
  • Wregarrd Hun moosh.
  • Non, non. On dit UNE mouche
  • wow you got quite good eyes.
[–] Azzu@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ever read 1984? They make a great case for simpler language!

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

That is doubleplus ungood!

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