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[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I thought I would miss reddit.

I was wrong.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Quitting a platform is always easier than you think it will be.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

YouTube is the only platform that I don't think I'll be able to quit any time soon. Hosting video on that kind of scale requires insane amounts of capitol, and P2P isn't reliable enough, and I say this as someone who has streamed torrents before and has tried out PeerTube.

Also even if there was an alternative, having an alternative for creator monitization is even more difficult. LBRY and D-Tube tried to do it with cryptocurrency, but both of those projects seem to have fizzled out (and I think one is flooded with fascists nowadays).

[–] Aggravationstation@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Do you mean for posting content or watching it?

If it's just watching there's plenty of alternatives. Newpipe and YMusic on Android are pretty awesome. Also there's Freetube on desktop and Invidious.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Posting content. I've been using NewPipe since the very first version.

[–] Aggravationstation@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yea, thought that might be the case. I just wanted an excuse to promote Newpipe more than anything there. God I love that app.

You're right, nothing compares to Youtube for video hosting. What do you post?

I don't personally post much; I just want a good alternative that will convince the creators I watch to switch to a more libre platform.

[–] OctoFloofy@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Tbf under quitting i understand not interacting with the platform anymore in any way. Just using a different app for that platform isnt really quitting. I still use reddit with a modded 3rd party app so it still works since i never really got into lemmy or kbin (i'm here after months of not opening it just to look what changed) so while i dont use the official way of accessing it i cannot say i quit

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Facebook definitely came with withdrawals. That one was tough. But five years later, I can't imagine ever going back.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 4 points 9 months ago

I set up a firefox shortcut for my instance with keyword "r" so that if I type "r+enter" I get startrek.website. Putting that unwanted muscle memory to good use.

[–] NaturalViber@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Man, this is one I am on the way out of. Late, I know. But I genuinely keep up with friends and family there, also facebook marketplace has taken over the game.

[–] Stormygeddon@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

I wish I didn't make half my money from commissions set up through reddit.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ofc it does.

Glad I left that place months ago. What a sewer.

I thought I might miss it, but I don't. At all.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago
[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Arguably, anyone can scrape lemmy for free. Of course, it's illegal, unless explicitly allowed by the license of the respective instance.

It's sad for reddit though that they could have the option to protect their users from scraping, since they are big enough to enforce their rights. But yeah, profits.

Can I sue them btw to pay me for whatever value my comments and posts have created over there?

[–] NotAtWork@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

Scraping lemmy is as easy as setting up a server advertising it on Activitypub and all the data will be sent straight to you.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

There are GreaseMonkey/ViolentMonkey scripts that work fine as well.

I still use Reddit infrequently, and delete what few comments I leave after a couple days using those scripts.

[–] DickFiasco@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Lol, the AI is just going to emit nonsense like "holy hell", "thanks for the gold, kind stranger", "I too choose this guy's wife"

[–] cuchi@startrek.website 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I HAVE AN IDEA! What about... put the subreddits on private again? /s

[–] SilverShark@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Questin is, is data of private subs still sold? Likely it is.

[–] cuchi@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago

If Reddit want it, yes. That's why that protest was one of the worst attempts of making noise on internet what I ever seen.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The AI training clause is the least of my concerns with reddit these days.

[–] Mr_Mofu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Man that reminds me that I haven't deleted all my posts and comments yet! Anyone got a good program for that?

[–] NotAtWork@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you delete content it just flags it as not public, Reddit will keep the data, they have shown this by undeleting content in the past.

[–] Mr_Mofu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I just wanna rob the place of all the content I put on it. If they reinstate the comments and posts ill just request a complete EU compliant clensing

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

They don't care. The content will stay either way. It's been done before.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They literally already sell our content. Why run it through an expensive warp?

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because people were getting it for free. This is just a way to monetize it.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I should just refuse to move my body altogether when I'm not being explicitly paid for it so I'm not farmed for content.

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Training bots to talk on text generated by bots