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[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 103 points 9 months ago (13 children)

If only batteries where still that easy to replace. I'd never buy a new phone again.

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I swirched to fairphone almost exclusively because their phone has an easily swappable battery (it's very modular and easily repairable on top of that)

But if I'm not mistaken then there are new EU regulations coming that demand all batteries be replaceable, so hopefully this won't be an issue for much longer

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The first thing I did with my Fairphone was to root it, and tweak the internal BMS/charge controller settings via a terminal. My ~4 year old device battery pretty much still runs like new, still get 2 days of standby.

From what I read on the FP forums though, users running stock tend to swap out their batteries every 1-2 years, like I had to on my old Galaxy S5. Most manufacturers' default battery charge profiles target the longest runtime, causing batteries to really degrade quickly.

For consumers that upgrade every 1-2y they won't notice this issue, but for those of us who want their phone to last longer than that, we notice this really quickly... in these cases having a swappable battery is a must

On the topic of modularity, I had my FP's vibration motor die on me, that was a very easy fix of literally opening up the device, swapping the module, and done. Absolutely love it!

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You were able to limit the charge/discharge to stay within 20/80% or something like that? That's awesome, i should look into doing that myself

[–] airbussy@lemmy.one 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I have the Fairphone 5. Limiting the charge to 80% is actually a feature without rooting!

[–] ignotum@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Damn, i thought i had the fairphone 5 as well, but it was "fairphone 4 5G" πŸ˜…

Time to throw away my ~1 year old phone to buy the newer model! /s

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

You can also disable fast charging in the same menu to prolong battery life.

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

Yep, I stay within 30%-91% where possible, and also limit the charge current to 500mA since the device defaults to 2.7A which I think is a bit high...

As @airbussy@lemmy.one mentioned it's probably in the settings menu for your device if you've got a newer phone.

On the FP3, the phone's hardware supports it, but it's not implemented anywhere in the settings sadly - only way to access it is by rooting

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[–] Rez@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago
[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago

Yesss Fairphone is pretty awesome and still powerful :)

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[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (11 children)

IME the battery isn't the issue, especially if you get a phone with a big battery to begin with.

It's the lack of updates that's the issue which means you can no longer use certain critical apps (banking, government, etc.) on your phone.

The phone becomes obsolete before the battery ever dies.

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[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The EU has mandated that every phone should have an easily replaceable battery by 2027

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago

Like with the usb-c law, this will likely be worldwide

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[–] Lmaydev@programming.dev 101 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I miss replaceable batteries.

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

EU forcing manufacturers to all have removable batteries again by 2027.

Nothing like "upgrading" your phone's life back in the day by buying a bigger battery replacement

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Replaceable batteries. I don't think it means popping open a battery cover like the old days, I think it means a way to DIY repair to replace the battery.

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Samsung Galaxy S5 supremacy; what a revolutionary phone that had it all: heart rate reader, IR blaster, replaceable battery, SD card slot, headphone jack, fingerprint reader, and IP67 rating.

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago

I can pop open the back cover and take the battery out on my Fairphone :)

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[–] Bondrewd@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Soonβ„’

[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Funnily enough, this made the phone less likely to break, as it would offload a bunch of the impact force onto the battery.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Right where we want the force to go, the explody bit.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, it does launch it across the room so it's not near you.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

That's why I always accidently kick my phone towards my friends when I drop it

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At least the phone still works after one drop.

Just like my 🎀

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[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My old phone explodes into three parts when it falls down: Cover, battery and SIM card. You know what? I’ve thrown that shitty old thing dozens if not hundreds of times on the floor and it still works. Unlike your precious $3000 smart phones that can’t handle a single face plant.

IF YOUR DEVICE IS HAND-HELD BUT CAN’T WITHSTAND A FALL FROM HAND HEIGHT, IT’S BROKEN BY DESIGN

[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 9 months ago

probably just a hyperbole

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[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

Apple mfs when their battery has a bad day and they can FINALLY buy their third iphone in two months:

:D

[–] sag@lemm.ee 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I will be glad if I have removable batteries in my phone.

[–] LemmyExpert@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago

Samsung Galaxy XCover 6 Pro. XCover 6, for short...XCover 7 is released internationally, may or may not hit US. Haven't looked it up for a while. It better fucking come to the US. 😑

$1K+ smartphones & folding smartphones are bullshit.

[–] derbolle@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 9 months ago

Can't reproduce. My FairPhone is an indestructible tank.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

you mean the good old days when phone producers still had a bit of respect for what they were doing?

[–] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 10 points 9 months ago

They really should have built those batteries with screws that can still be easy to replace, but won't fly out as easily

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh no. This brought to the surface a memory I had been repressing. I was in college, one of the early classes with the tiered row seating and like 150 students. I was running late when I stepped into the classroom, gave a polite wave to the Professor, and headed to one of the front rows to show good faith. Halfway down this room my damn phone, which I had always had on vibrate, decided it would take a call and let me, and everyone else in the room, know. I was only reminded because I almost dropped it as I scrambled wildly to silence the sounds it was making.

So yeah, thanks for that. Reliving some of the shame and embarrassment now.

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